she call me and say, "i still love general videla. but you are right. he has to go to jail." >> i spoke to luis moreno-ocampo in new york, where he is now in private practice. he had just returned from iraq where he was doing bro-bono work investigating crimes committed by isil against the country's yazidi minority. you've just recently returned from ira the yazidis have, have appealed to the icc. they wanted the icc to do something about the genocide that they say that is happening to them because of isil. what can the icc do? >> that for me interesting, no? because, if you are a victim of, this type of crimes, you are in iraq. but isis who have no, no one can control them, is attacking you. where you go? iraq cannot do it. so who else will protect you? so people keep moving, asking icc to intervene. and the problem was, iraq is not a state party. so the territory's not under the jurisdiction of international criminal court. because what they had to prove to open a case at the icc is that member of isis are nationals from third parties. and then, we co

i said, "but president videla, people are still disappearing!" with that, he changed. he was furious. and then, unfortunately, a most... you know, an admired journalist broke in and said, "well, you have to realize, like julius caesar, there are times when there are things that you have to do that you have to do and you can't talk about them." so from that moment on, i realized that this was... it was a policy of disappearing. so what we were trying to do was to break the silence about it, because people denied it. i had people who came down from the united states, people who'd been living... argentines who'd been living abroad. they'd come to me and say, "i went to plaza de mayo." and this is true. it sounds impossible, but you're in a mad situation in argentina at that time. he said, "well, i went to the square, the plaza de mayo, and i asked a policeman, 'where are the madres de plaza de mayo?'" they called them then the locas, the mad women. >> hinojosa: the crazy women. >> and he said, "and the policeman told me there's no such thing." he said, "why are you publis