patients scientists from around the world are putting the disease under scrutiny at a conference in vienna delegates heard about some breakthroughs in treatment. more news more developments in less than half an hour from now in the meantime peter lavelle in these guest discuss if anything is holding back research into tackling aids in cross talk next on r.t. . hungry for the full story we've got it first hand the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers on. every month we give you the future we help you understand how we'll get there and what tomorrow brings the best in science and technology from across russia and around the world join us acknowledging update on our jeep. and you can. follow and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle the aids biz fighting a deadly virus with the endless funding of big pharma how much consensus is there within the scientific community how much dissent does confronting the aids epidemic need a complete rethink. and you can. start . to discuss the world's largest medical problem i'm joined by denis broome in vienna he's the united

rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want then he said i to go to you first in vienna you're at the can this international aids conference it's the eighteenth fund raising is an issue i seriously doubt awareness has to be an issue at least in the modernized industrialized world but everyone knows about this epidemic so what do you hope to achieve at this conference is it looks like the at this point it's the conference of low expectations because of the recession well i wouldn't say that completely at first there is a level of awareness which is very low in some parts of the region in eastern europe and central asia we find that among young people sometimes more than half do not know how each of these transmitted do not know how to prevent it how to protect themselves we also have all the types of expectations that this conference has to share some of the new things on science you know today that was announced that the clinical. miles of new show including to no four year was protective for women to a pretty large extent so there are new things coming up we know also k

patients scientists from around the world are putting the disease under scrutiny at a conference in vienna where delegates about some breakthroughs in treatment. continue from now in the meantime cross-talk is promises coming up in just a moment today the battle against aids is under debate. if you can. get to. the lower end welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle the aids biz fighting a deadly virus with the endless funding of big pharma how much consensus is there within the scientific community how much dissent is confronting the aids epidemic need a complete rethink. education. to discuss the world's largest medical problem i'm joined by denis broome in vienna he's the united nations aids regional director for europe and central asia in mine ham we have peter duesberg a professor of molecular and cell biology at the university of california berkeley and in new haven we go to steve catchier he's the president of global pharma insights and another member of our crosstalk team here on the hunger all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want then

to discuss the world's largest medical problem i'm joined by denis broome in vienna he's the united nations aids regional director for europe and central asia. in mine him we have peter duesberg a professor of molecular and cell biology at the university of california berkeley and in new haven we go to steve catcher he's the president of global pharma insights and another member of our crosstalk team on the hunger all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want then he said i to go to you first in vienna you're at the can this international aids conference it's the eighteenth fund raising is an issue i seriously doubt awareness has to be an issue at least in the modernized industrialized world but everyone knows about this epidemic so what do you hope to achieve at this conference is it looks like the at this point it's the conference of low expectations because of the recession well i wouldn't say that completely first there is a level of awareness which is very low in some parts of the region in eastern europe and central asia we find that among y

this day of the aids two thousand and ten conference in vienna. all morning to register and to the global village which is going to be the center of much of the discussion over the coming week now as to the demand twenty five thousand people will be attending this is a conference meeting policy made his first scientists to work with people living with hiv and aids or to discuss the latest developments in this field now so really a the last couple of days and ahead of the main conference we've seen a separate much smaller group gathering to discuss alternative views that challenge the mainstream i did about hiv and aids in fact challenging the traditional methods of treatment and the definition of page i v and it's so now most of the people that are attending this conference delegates and scientists have said that they will name parts even interact in a conversation with the separate great they've completely ignored it saying that this is not something that they're willing to discuss now be focusing very much on the topics of that they'll be discus

best arguments organizers of the eighteenth international aids conference being held this week in vienna see it's a gathering of individuals committed to ending what they've classified as a pandemic for alexei he'd rather not get his hopes up all he wants are the facts. i don't expect to see any breakthrough at this conference i just hope that it will be made clear as to where we are to regarding the vaccine because we needed it yesterday desiree celia r.t. moscow and more leaders aren't doing enough to ensure hiv positive people get the treatment they desperately need that's the message from julio monton aaron the president of the international aid society he was speaking at the ongoing aids conference in vienna which is calling for an answer treatment discrimination so our first is there for us. the really cool aids all the tests accurate and all of the aids treatment but these are just some of the extremely controversial questions that it being asked by challenging the mainstream hiv and aids at the aids twenty ten conference second day here in vienna and nobody could give me the pape

gregory adams of america many thanks and speaking to us from vienna. now corporal punishment in schools may seem like an allergy date disciplining tool but in india it's still widely used in that's despite being bound for decades and as karen said reports the eck lames that teaches that being violent to children all right. this is one of india's worst kept secrets the prevalence of corporal punishment in schools but the recent suicide of thirteen year old rival has brought the practice out into the open a student at the prestigious law martin here for boys school in kolkata who hanged himself at home earlier this year after being gained at school after spending months juicing the school for answers his father has filed a police complaint against the three teachers he says were involved i think that they were after him for a long way limiting he was so long as he was giving them individual. battling if i may use the word he was able to take it but when they all descended on him at the same time that i don't thing. i don't think is young men could have t

vienna, where the aids conference is taking place, saw a huge drop in the spread of hiv after the city started handing out free sterile syringes to heroin addicts. in an effort to clean up the city center, officials recently moved the syringe exchange project, making it more difficult for drug addicts to get clean needles. >> these addicts in vienna have to sit outside. the police recently moved in to where they used to gather. inside the subway station. the authorities are trying to move the junkies out of the city center. nadia has been clean for a year. she came here for years to swap per used needles and syringes for new ones to protect yourself from infection like hepatitis or hiv. >> i guess they are just not swapping their needles anymore, or they swap them among each other. in the old days, you bought your stuff and exchanged needles and and you inject yourself right away. >> the smallness and forms addicts about the place that dirty needles can be exchanged, like this committee center cafe in the eighth district. -- at the committee center cafe in the district. pickens what th

now thousands of experts scientists and politicians from around the globe have gathered in vienna to discuss aids prevention but as our sisera first reports the convention has also trapped skeptics who oppose a mainstream belief surrounding the deadly virus. this day of the aids two thousand and ten conference in vienna people have been arriving all morning to register and to the global village which is going to be the center of much of the discussion over the coming week now as though that around twenty five thousand people will be attending this year's conference meeting policy making this scientists community work is people living with hiv and aids or to discuss the latest developments in this field now so quickly the last couple of days and ahead of the main conference we've seen a separate much smaller wheat. gathering to discuss alternative views that challenge the mainstream i did about hiv and aids in fact challenging the traditional methods of treatment and the definition of hiv and aids itself now most of the people that are attending this conference of delegates and scient

thanks very much indeed for joining us now you are holding a separate aids conference there in vienna why what what are you trying to achieve . both conferences i've been of the conference organized by dr christian fellow on the sixteenth and seventeenth and i'm also attending the. international conference on aids that is going on in these days and i presented two different sets of data. at the conference hosted by dr fiala presented some demographic data from my region tuscany in italy and put some questions so on the accepted dogma the hiv is the only cause for aids and the other conference should present data demonstrating that stimulation of the immune system can help getting rid of the virus which might be a revolution in therapy and the my confirm the words of professor martin year will say that if you have a good immune system you can get rid of the virus really within a few weeks actually the data being produced in collaboration with the american scientists japanese ancestry professor number to your mom or to who gave us a protein to stimulate the immune system and we are prod

vienna. now was it a bird or was it a plane well in fact it was a donkey and images of the terrified going for a parachute drew the wrath of animal rights activists the world over but despite accusations of cruelty the man responsible looks likely to escape punishment. you know to see that maybe even to the fact that between never be thank you. and you probably never would if it wasn't for a seaside p.r. stunt. sitting on the beach or parachute go up you couldn't quite figure it out myself or legs nor of my own ice a donkey it was intended to attract only local customers to watersports firm at a russian black sea resort but its effect quickly rippled out across the world levy many worried about the donkey's feet this animal was suffering was captured on videos and photographs and the way it spread through the media is really amazing and i think what the public has done is created a demand you know for animals to be treated better and for people to pay attention after attraction is such an aud

reporting from vienna for us. long tunes that christie's auction house is insisting the painting is sold to a russian billionaire is all fun to it's being reported he sued by business then. claims beyond work keyboard is a fake pixel berg allegedly splashed down nearly three million dollars when this painting caught his eye in two thousand and five it's called supposedly by the rational. but all of the experts in russia have taken a closer look and then now convinced it's been forged is now said to want his cash back plus damages or christie's took another look at the painting and say it is genuine but want more research to be done. our stories are also updated twenty four hours a day at dot com let's look through what else is online at the moment for you were there the indian teaches you are hitting children for not doing their homework corporal punishment illegal parents want action after a tormented people committed suicide. on the russian organizers of a promotional stunt could spend two years in jail if convi

the criticism comes during the aids conference which is underway in vienna calling for an end to treatment discrimination is there for us. but you see already the funding's been a big topic of the last couple of days and this thirty being concerned that some countries such as the us is seen as perhaps we can in their commitment to funding and now we've heard arguments such as the hiv aids is they funded these are being called false arguments is that there's really much much more that needs to be done the still many people who are not receiving what people here are saying a life saving treatments and this is another really big issue here is this access universal access to hate hiv prevention treatments now we've heard today a former u.s. president bill clinton speaking and he's called for the hatred d.n.a. so can i say she has to really ensure that there is sufficient in the delivery of the services rather than complaining and perhaps about the fact that there's not enough funding to ensure that money is not being wasted anywhere specially in light of the economic situation that many of the

so our first reporting there from vienna you're watching r.t. live from moscow on the way. find out why the use of drones by the u.s. military keeps coming under fire and dance in just a few minutes here in our team. the story of a teenager who committed suicide after being caned at school was pushing india to criminalize corporal punishment physical penalties are still widely used by teachers in the country despite being illegal current saying has more. this is one of india's worst kept secrets the prevalence of corporal punishment in schools but the recent suicide of thirteen year old grungy rival has brought the practice out into the open a student at the prestigious la martiniere for boys school in kolkata hanged himself at home earlier this year after being gained at school after spending months juicing the school for answers his father has filed a police complaint against the three teachers he says were involved i think that they were after him for a long while and i think he was so long as he was getting an individual. but if i may use the word he was able to take it

lash apollo and thanks for joining it's experts and scientists from around the world are meeting in vienna this weekend to debate ways of fighting and preventing aids which kills over two million people yet there's of here is debate within the medical community with some dissenting doctors questioning the mainstream view that the hiv virus is the only cause of the disease sarah fatha reports from vienna. eighteenth international aids conference will begin and head in vienna bringing together around twenty five thousand policymakers scientists community work is activists and people living with hiv to discuss the latest developments in the stills but right now there's a today conference going on looking also a ton of definitions and treatments of hate hiv and aids when the aids epidemic first hit the headlines in the one nine hundred eighty s. it caused widespread panic for a singer he was one of the first diagnosed it was a terrifying experience for information was just records. chatroom. so. we have one of the first cardinals to distribute. christian priest. cigars since the discovery of a

cashing in on aids patients while scientists from around the world put the disease under scrutiny in vienna. live from a studio in central moscow this is r t with you twenty four hours a day good to have you with us two security guards have been killed in an attack on a hydroelectric power plant in russia's southern republic of korea two generators were put out of action when several bombs went was set off inside the station. has more. not of the caucasus target as ations claimed responsibility for a serious of bloss at the box on hydro power plant in russia but in about korea and the north caucasus meanwhile national and to church committee is reporting now that all the people being involved in this attack those who have carried out as well as the organizers have all been identified although officially no name has yet been given the russian media has already suggested that i made abdul mawgoud be behind this attack this man is known as the leader of al-qaeda militants he became number one in the republic just a while ago and since then the number of deadly incidents in the republican south

correspondent sara firth reporting there from vienna. an investigation into the small plane crash that killed the polish president most of the country. has revealed new evidence that pilots. despite the probes apparent transparency conspiracy theories are testing me proof relationship between. details in just a few minutes. immigrants in the united states are prepared to do hard labor to survive and often resort to working illegally however one group of u.s. citizens is angry that these foreigners are taking away their jobs claiming they don't pay taxes but these americans are not happy to do the work the immigrants do . among the ports. california. immigrant workers are picking the millions of americans and people around the world. it's a back breaking job not everyone is fit to do most of these. right in the united states illegally. and many are oblivious to the political firestorm that know what happened here for labor here believe any time i mean this is about lawful citizens versus illegal invaders if you want to build a fifty foot

that was our correspondent sara firth reporting from vienna there. an investigation into silence a plane crash that killed the polish president most of the country's political elite has revealed new evidence that the pilots were on the pressure to land despite the protests apparent transparency conspiracy theories on testing the improved relationship between moscow and details in just a few minutes. illegal immigration remains a hot topic of debate throughout the western world while moons are on the move seeking a better life in countries that don't necessarily want them in the european union alone belgium of the austria voted in nationalist parties meanwhile the only reason border control agency frontex has been slammed for excessive force in tact when those seeking to cross borders illegally the u.s. state of arizona has been criticized for a door where people can be stopped and searched and moved back by several other states supporters say they're just protecting jobs critics call it racial profiling one superscripts as illegal immigrants have no

new ways of tackling h i v e r unveiled at an international aids conference in vienna and some label it as nothing more than a pharmaceutical marketing fad. well at least five suspected militants have been killed and four others wounded after a u.s. drone attack in northwest pakistan this follows saturday's strike in the area in which sixteen people died while the u.s. military plans to increase production of on man planes to target the taliban there are rising concerns this will lead to more civilian deaths. the economy out of the blue i have two words for you predator drones i you will never see it coming a drone least ten times cheaper than a fighter jet it requires no pilot so there are no troop deaths to explain it's the perfect weapon for covered cia operations in countries like pakistan and afghanistan if things go wrong you can deny it all and things do go wrong studies by independent international experts suggest that for every militant killed as many as fifteen civilians also die there's no way of getting exact numbers the cia keeps its drones program under wraps but the un

is still to damaged far too many sasha arcee vienna. with the russian american spy story just reaching its conclusion it's a timely moment for a big screen version hollywood star angelina jolie has in moscow for the premier of her latest movie salt. i think the film the film is very very different i suppose in some way but but you know i'm very i'm very i'm somebody who's a little political so i love positive relationships between america and russia and all the good things so so i didn't focus too much on the scandal except i thought it was handled really well by our presidents and kind of very quickly in the movie plays a cia agent who is accused of working with the russian secret services the actress has been to moscow before but this is the first saw her children are here with her head of the premier crowds who wronged outside the cinema despite the temperatures hitting record highs as we were reporting a little earlier. now was it a bird or was it a plane while in fact it was a donkey and images of the terrified beast dangling from

was our correspondent sara firth reporting from vienna. illegal immigration remains a hot topic of debate throughout the western world while millions are on the roof seeking a better life in countries that don't necessarily welcome them in the european you . gratian national parties meanwhile the border control agency. force in tackling those seeking to cross borders illegally us state of arizona has been criticized for the way people can be stopped and searched i moved back by several other states supporters claim they're just protecting jobs critics call it racial profiling and want to see first group says immigrants have no place in america. california these immigrant workers are picking the millions of americans and people around the world. it's a bank breaking job not everyone is fit to do most of these. right in the united states illegally. and many are oblivious to the political firestorm that know what happened here for leave and they're going to leave any time i mean this is about lawful citizens versus illegal invaders if you wan

stunt on and off as world wide report on the police hunt for vienna. oh you're watching our weekly news review here on r.t. welcome to the program the unprecedented russian heatwave rages on this july already the hottest month on record three hundred people have drowned across the country this week alone most believed to be trying to cool off from the overwhelming conditions and while emergency teams deal with rising cases of heat stroke forecasters say the hot weather is set to stay. in the telly not because of a more impact of the heat. the sun may get its head on in central russia but it can be wearing much else because it's absolutely baking with the mercury hitting record highs and lows in office just goes easy all around the city of ten million looks like a huge beach fountains have turned to bathtubs with people taking every opportunity to plunge into something cooler than the ceiling area around but it's probably safer alternative to a we were swimming with a grim statistics of three hundred drownings this week alone and it doesn't look like ru

it's the third day of the aids two thousand and ten conference here in vienna and already we've seen some controversy in the days leading up to the official conference we heard from agreed to a challenging many of the fundamental assumptions that a lot of us told about hatred b. and aids and about the forms of treatment know their views were met by many of the mainstream scientists with widespread criticism that has been a lot of debating here at the official conference itself to do with funding and treatment strategy that we heard yesterday from bill gates and bill clinton they were addressing an aids organizations i'm really asking them to ensure that they were providing value for money and efficient delivery of services in tough economic times now there's been some protests going through the conference about this apparent scaling back the people saying that governments aren't holding good on their promises i remember in two thousand and five the u.n. said the december two thousand and ten deadline promising universal access to hate hiv prevention treatments and most countries have

mr hawtrey many are joining us now thousands of people have been protesting this week not only in vienna calling for more funding in the fight against aids do you think that their calls are actually being heard. i think that their calls are being listened to but the. direction in which the science is going is misplaced and that's why people are angry. for many years i've reported on this subject i started writing about it twenty five years ago and held the conventional view that it was caused by a new virus when that was first. put forward in the 1980's but over the years i've come to the conclusion that scientists who've been challenging that idea who say that hiv has never been proven. a specific entity and therefore the tests that claim to. be infection are faulty i think they've got a very strong point and that's why after all these years we're still seeing such dissatisfaction with the efforts of the scientific community. not trying but misdirected their efforts well mr hutchinson you say that the direction in which the study of aids is is wrong but much has been made at this partic

the cause and treatment of aids is unfolding as a major conference on the disease takes place in vienna a group of over two thousand doctors claim the official theory that the hiv virus leads to aids is wrong they also say their views are being ignored by the mainstream backed by big pharmaceutical companies are further has more now from the austrian capital. they're questioning the validity of the common assumptions that are often associated with hiv and aids and they also question the traditional means of treatment with the with the aid with the drugs treatment not some of the more specific questions that they've raised in the last couple of days prior to the official conference and they've been holding their own talks things like the accuracy of the hague hiv test a person's defined as having a if they developed one of the twenty nine a finding diseases those are things such as pneumonia and. and as well as that test positive for hiv hiv so a positive or negative hiv test can mean that if it's between so on being diagnosed with pneumonia or being diagnosed with aids if they're callin

correspondents are reporting from vienna that. illegal immigration remains a hot topic of debate throughout the western wall while millions are on the move seeking a better life in countries that don't necessarily welcome them when the european union a leg people in belgium the netherlands and austria have elected to immigration national policies. that border control agency from texas been slammed for excessive force in tackling they seem to cross borders illegally the u.s. state of arizona criticize from the weapons will be stopped and searched a move backed by several other states support his claim that they're just protecting jobs questions only it racial profiling and one of the first group says illegal immigrants place in america. under the hot southern california. immigrant workers are picking the heat consumed by millions of americans and people around the world. it's a bank breaking job not everyone is fit to do most of these illegal workers right in the united states illegally so from as far as central america and many ar

eighteenth international aids conference will begin and head in vienna bringing together around twenty five thousand policymakers scientists community work is activists and people living with hiv to discuss the latest developments in the stills but right now there's a t day conference going on looking also tentative definitions and treatments of hiv and aids when the aids epidemic first hit the headlines in the one nine hundred eighty s. it caused widespread panic for the singer he was one of the first diagnoses when it was a terrifying experience for information was just. chatroom . so rich or even the first thought was to. be. considered the first. degree murder charge since the discovery of aids three decades ago it's estimated a twenty five million people have died from the disease they've a sixty million people infected in that time according to the united nations u.s. scientists identified hiv as a cause and developed a successful test to detect its presence but this has itself been a subject to scientific disagreement some believe there are different causes of aids not just take

we do appreciate your time here talking to us from vienna dr christian. dmitri medvedev is spending a couple of days in finland where alongside a bit of official business there's also a bit of time for some scandinavian sightseeing to start with the finnish president toddy helen and gave me a bit of a tour of her official summer residence known as the golden bank it's the second time the leaders have enjoyed a stroll in the sun the two last met in the russian resort of sochi last august present that is next year to soak up some baltic history but then it's down to business leaders are set to talk about energy deals and environmental issues and the details are in our business update later for you this hour on r.t. . london's christie's auction house is insisting the painting it sold to a russian billionaire is authentic it's been reportedly sued by a businessman victim who claims the artwork he bought is a fake burger allegedly splashed on nearly three million dollars when this painting caught his eye in two thousand and five it's called or at least suppos