had the america and the south vietnamese army on the offensive and the north vietnamese and the vietcong quite desperately trying to rebuild their forces. then, of course, we started leaving vietnam and we left our allies somewhat alone with our tactics but without our support and, eventually, they lost. but it--it--it--peter made quite a contribution with that book, i think. brian: let me ask both of you about your own lives. where did you grow up? frances: in new york city. brian: parents? frances: well, one of the reasons i went to vietnam in the first place is that i had a father who spent the--world war ii in china and then worked for the cia, and. brian: his name was? frances: desmond fitzgerald. and he spent some time in vietnam, as well as other places. and, i mean, when i first went out there, it was sort of quite casual, in a way. it was just to--i thought i would do a couple pieces and come back, though, i mean, it practically--you know, i wanted to see asia, and i was writing for--freelance for magazines and so forth. but i w--i sort of wanted to see where he'd been. i wanted