soldiers who served in vietnam. in his latest book turns attention to the impact of the agent orange on the vietnamese. next during the siege and from new york city he discusses his book with author and link west noam chomsky. this is about 40 minutes. welcome to the new store that opened in april. her staff the great job making room for us all. >> i am the loose cannon, one of the people who set up this conspiracy to get us all together to think about agent orange and to do something about it. there are too great books published by seven story press. the first book originally came out in 1989. it was by fred wilcox of course and was about the impact agent orange had on american veterans. the second book was just knew, scorched earth, is about the vietnamese and the impact on vietnam. so the 07 stories press who does so many books nobody else what to and housing works and a few loose cannons all our thinks this is an important event to make a breakthrough on the horrible tragedy of many decades agent orange what sti

it went on, not only in south vietnam, north vietnam, at least where nobody was looking, the area around hanoi was somewhat spared because there were a lot of lies there, foreign embassies, but the south, southern part of north vietnam, south vietnam itself, they never recovered. the bombings extended to northern laos which had nothing to do with the war in vietnam but it was mainly because a lot of air force planes were idle during arming causes. you they virtually destroyed what a manager a virtually stone age society, primitive society in northern laos. littered with unexploded ordnance. people still dying. people were living in caves for several years trying to survive. i interviewed a lot of them back around 1970. then it expanded to cambodia, which is actually the most intense bombing in history. following henry kissinger's immortal phrase, anything -- anything that flies against anything that moves, those were the orders handed down by kissinger from his boss to the air force, and the bombing, brief period, just a couple years, we now know reached the level of all allied bombing i

>> nixon said in 1968 he had a secret plan to end the war in vietnam. the and it up escalating the war in 1969 and 1970 by having u.s. troops invade cambodia and try to disrupt supply lines. early in the nixon presidency, the war seem to be expanding, not winding down. this outraged the anti-war movement and gave mcgovern more emphasis to run against nixon. later as it came closer to the election, nixon understood he needed to start disengaging american troops so that by 1972, there were only a couple hundred thousand combat troops in vietnam. as mcgovern was making the decision to run, he thought nixon was escalating the war, not winding it down. >> 1971, the pentagon papers or first published. what is the impact of this? >> the pentagon papers were not as revealing as they were said to be. a lot of things in the pentagon papers were known. it gave more credibility to what publicthe time nixon's failing again to protest of the vietnam war. the impression now is that the country was totally in uproar against the war in vietnam in the late 1960's. it rea

the 18 members include some of vietnam's most talented musicians. a 36-year-old cellist, was deined to make the carnegie performance a success. she joined the orchestra 11 years ago under the influence of her father, a musician. >> translator: i will try to express vietnamese feelings and hope they will be shared by our american audience. >> reporter: her father, lim, was the head of the orchestra, when it resumed its activities after the vietnam war. us air raids during the war destroyed their instruments and rehearsal center. his home was also bombed. a piano and cello, the family's treasures, were smashed to pieces. it wasn't until the mid 1980s, about a decade after the end of the vietnam war, that the orchestra began playing again. there were only eight members at that time. they are proud that the orchestra has come a long way over the past quarter century and is now performing in the united states. the big day is here. the venue is carnegie hall in new york, a dream venue for musicians along the world. the concert started with the national an

vietnam veterans were complicated. i did feel deeply sympathetic to them because i felt as i said in the subtitle -- the first subtitle on my title on vietnam veterans was vietnam veterans neither victims nor executioners. that was a kamu phrase warning of the two roles we should never assume and they had been thrust into both roles by their society. but so i felt -- i felt sympathetic to people who had been pressed into thought reform, to hiroshima veterans to vietnam veterans, with nazi doctors that was hardly the case. and it was a difficult enterprise to sit down -- for me to sit down with nazi doctors and i felt all kinds of emotions including rage and a sense of grotesqueness and a sense of being tainted by sitting down with them in certain ways. on the other hand -- >> and was that because they were doctors or was it the evil itself? >> no, it was the evil itself, though, being doctors -- i'm a kind of a doctor, though, i've strayed so far from the clinic, i call myself a former doctor. but in any case, it was m

army command in vietnam.eral palmer told him he really had basic disagreements on how it was organized and how we were doing it. later ballmer elaborated on those views in an interview with journalist mark perry. it was just a mess. we were losing. trying to put it together, and it just wasn't working. there was not anything that was working. in late summer of 1967 ambassador ellsworth bunker submitted this assessment, we still have a long way to go to much of the country is still in d.c. hands and the enemy can still sell our bases and commits acts of terrorism in this tourist areas. units still mount large-scale attacks appeared most of the populace has still not actively committed itself to the government, and an infrastructure still exists throughout the country. that was what westmoreland had to show for three years in command of u.s. forces. by the end of 1967 we were remembered, gramm cents was descending on the white house. finally even general william, architect of the search and destroy concept and

he could not make up his mind where he stood on vietnam. mcgovern left no doubt where he stood on the war. another point, mcgovern was genuinely against the war, but he was belittled in those days. although he was revered by the people who were against the war in vietnam, there were other people who did not see it that way. they would not dream of voting for george mcgovern. >> charles guggenheim filmed part of the campaign, including the senators speaking to a group of vietnam war veterans at a hospital. here is a little bit of that conversation. >> they love their country, there is no question about that. you are about halfway mad at it, are you not? >> when you lose control of your bowels, your bladder, your sterility where you cannot father a child, you'll never walk again for the rest of your life, you are 23-years old, you do not want to be a burden for your family -- do you know where you go from here? a nursing home. and you stay there until you rot. nobody thinks of a disabled veteran or a disabled anybody except another disabled p

host: diem was president of vietn vietnam, south vietnam, what years? guest: from 1954 through 1963 when he was killed in the coup. host: john f. kennedy was president when he was killed? i john f. kennedy died three weeks after the assassination of diem. host: here is the clip of your mother and tim winer talking. >> november of 1963, i was at mass that morning and your father came in to the church in bethesda and said pray for the diem brothers, pray for the souls of the diem brothers. they have been found murdered, which was a shock, a terrible shock. bill stayed for that mass. and we pray ed fervently for president diem and his brother. what was so difficult about it was that in hindsight and immediate hindsight we persons have to realize that we bore some share in this tragedy. not personally, but somehow things went wrong somehow. >> this was an extraordinary moment of presidential and the result feels a president and his brother with their hands tied behind their backs and bullets in their heads. and a shattered illusion, which is that we were bu

army command in vietnam.im he really had basic disagreements on how it was organized and how we were doing it. later ballmer elaborated on those views in an interview with journalist mark perry. it was just a mess. we were losing. trying to put it together, and it just wasn't working. there was not anything that was working. in late summer of 1967 ambassador ellsworth bunker submitted this assessment, we still have a long way to go to much of the country is still in d.c. hands and the enemy can still sell our bases and commits acts of terrorism in this tourist areas. units still mount large-scale attacks appeared most of the populace has still not actively committed itself to the government, and an infrastructure still exists throughout the country. that was what westmoreland had to show for three years in command of u.s. forces. by the end of 1967 we were remembered, gramm cents was descending on the white house. finally even general william, architect of the search and destroy concept and opposed to the war

army command in vietnam.eral palmer told him he really had basic disagreements on how it was organized and how we were doing it. later ballmer elaborated on those views in an interview with journalist mark perry. it was just a mess. we were losing. trying to put it together, and it just wasn't working. there was not anything that was working. in late summer of 1967 ambassador ellsworth bunker submitted this assessment, we still have a long way to go to much of the country is still in d.c. hands and the enemy can still sell our bases and commits acts of terrorism in this tourist areas. units still mount large-scale attacks appeared most of the populace has still not actively committed itself to the government, and an infrastructure still exists throughout the country. that was what westmoreland had to show for three years in command of u.s. forces. by the end of 1967 we were remembered, gramm cents was descending on the white house. finally even general william, architect of the search and destroy concept and

kennedy have goten out of vietnam if he had not been assassinated? >> strangely enough, my father thought that r.f.k. in 68, even though he was on the campaign saying we're going to get out of vietnam, it's immoral, he thought robert kennedy is somebody he could work with that would have gotten out of vietnam more gradly. i think he thought john f. kennedy would never have approved that many troops and he would have fought more the secret war, kind of the war we're fighting in afghanistan now. >> back to your documentary a minute and a half on your father's assignment to vietnam and the role that your deceased sistplared in all that. >> he had a lengthy assignment. he came back periodically. we would go to vermont, try to carry on life as we would know it and he was doing, he was called to serve and he did it. he did it capeably. >> when it comes to long separations, my mother was at loose ends. she lost the center out of her life. it was very hard for her. a year or so into his being there, my sister katherine became ill. she had epilepsy since she

he was vice president india just had just come back from vietnam. vietnam was increasingly becoming a major political fact during the country. it had not been when i first ran in 62. but i tend to 64, 66, 65. so president johnson was getting complaints that members of congress didn't feel they were being informed about the war. >> owl -- however could they said such a thing quiet >> so he invited members of congress to the white house. a large number went down. 100, 150 of us. it was winter as i recall. the invitation came late and we went in and it's not a thing for a congressman to be heading briefed by the president and vice president who had just come back from vietnam. and hubert humphrey started to get the briefing and lyndon baines johnson was commander-in-chief and he was bigger than life. you pop up every time someone would say something and answer the question and hubert would just about be ready to answer and stuff and lyndon johnson would take over. >> that's pretty much the way it usually works, too. >> yes indeed. he was a powerful fig

a letter in vietnam. and i saw that she was a woman, not just my mother. she was lonely. she had not signed up for this, but she did it. >> how well did you know your sister? >> quite well. she was only two years older than i was. she was not as sociable, as i was and had a policy from an early age -- and had epilepsy from an early age. she was different. she was kind of an odd duck. she spoke four languages. when and lived on a kibbutz in israel. extraordinary. and she had to come home because they found out that she had epilepsy and they said they could not care for her out there. and she said, my medication is fine. in a lot of ways, she was the fiercest of all of the siblings. she was a lot like my dad. she was a redhead, fearless, spoke all those languages, curious about the world, a fighter. >> what year did she die? >> in 1973. >> andy -- and the people and the documentary, she played a major role in their lives. how did you see it as one of her siblings? >> it is hard to say, but i think she was t

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the pullout from vietnam.ands he is appealing to the silent majority and that is what his campaign is it out. >> hubert humphrey comes out on vietnam still tied to lyndon johnson's policy? >> probably worse. lyndon johnson has funding he is holding onto. the democratic national committee has no money. he has no money. he has to borrow money to start his campaign. no tv ads. the promotion whatsoever. he is 20 points down in the polls. that is how he starts his campaign. >> how does it play out? >> it runs into -- it continues like that until the end of september. he is booed offstage in seattle by protesters. it continues and nothing changes. then he gives a speech in late september on september 30 in salt lake city where he has little left to lose at that point. he makes a break with johnson in a real subtle way where he call for a bombing halt and to bring the troops home. things change instantly. he gets something like $1 million in cash come into him. people saw it as a chance. the next place he went, it is

you were one of the last guys out of vietnam. i wonder what it feels like for an american serviceman on a day like this? >> absolutely magnificent. when you're the last guy out, you're getting ready to leave, you have no interest whatsoever in the fineries of international politics or even domestic politics. you want to get home. and i remember coming back from vietnam my second tour in january 1973 after having been there five years before fighting more or less the same war, being extremely happy that i was coming home and not very much concerned with what the outcome might turn out to be. >> if you take the politics, jack, out of this extraordinary divisive war that's separated the country over the last decade or so, what will be the legacy from a military point of view of our intervention in iraq? >> well, there's plenty of argument about this. i think you could argue strenuously that part of it, ironically, is the loss of influence in that part of the world. particularly in the eastern mediterranean where you see turkey flexi

. >> my dad came back from vietnam in 1971. he was appointed by richard nixon to be director of the cia. >> you are familiar with the controversy over the phoenix program in vietnam. there have been allegations that this phoenix program was an assassination program. what are the facts? >> mr. chairman, i have testified on this subject before the senate foreign relations committee in february 1970. tavis: the resemblance to your father is eerie. not scary. you can tell he is your father. that said, before get into the specifics of your story, yours is a unique story. each of our stories is unique but for a son for whoever -- what ever reason did not know the real deal about his father, having done the research now, would you recommend that any son go in search of the truth about his father? >> it is the oldest story in the world. for women as well. who is their father or their mother? in this case it is personal because his job was deception. his job was keeping secrets, not telling you the truth. we became part of the club or s

financial institutions in vietnam think the market still has a lot of potential.y tried to expand their credit card business. this bank chairman says credit cards will continue to spread. >> it is easier to get in touch with the bank, so all of these will make the business develop faster. >> reporter: vietnam middle class have embraced credit cards as disposable income rises. and with the economy set to keep on expanding, the boom may be sustained for years to come. nhk world, hanoi. >> that will wrap up our bulletin. i'm patchari raksawong in bangkok. >> thanks, patchari. >>> mei shoji is up next with weather. >> hi there. let's take a look at your weather conditions, starting off with asia. are we going to be having a white christmas here in japan? northern japan will be having white christmas. this low pressure system will be disturbing much of the northern half, the sea of japan side and blowing snow could be possible, which could be very dangerous for driving conditions. we will see fresh snowfall in sapporo area, around hokkaido, close to about 50 centimeter

and other countries, we're looking at 42 victims per year in vietnam.s the equivalent of what we see in afghanistan. much more can be done and the faster we do it, the faster the land can be returned to productive use. >> is the u.s. doing enough to help in this cause, in this effort? >> well, the u.s. has been actively engaged in mine action in vietnam since 1989 and the total amount is about 62 million u.s. dollars. it has been a great cooperation but a lot more needs to be done. on average only below $3 million a for mine action in vietnam and the problem is huge. >> justin, why does the u.s. have an interest in this? why is this important to the u.s.? these old land mines and bombs are affecting vietnam's economic growth but why should the u.s. care? >> vietnam could be an excellent partner of the united states in the region and certainly cultivating that relationship in addition to the legacy from the war that the united states was an active participant in leads to a natural conclusion that cooperation would be beneficial both to the vietnamese as

i got the same question asked of me when i was in vietnam as one of the last combat troops in vietnam. the president of the united states decided in january 1973 -- i was with the vietnamese airborne division fighting up in the northern part of what was south vietnam -- how do i feel about all this sacrifice, i had been there twice before, been wounded, how do i feel about leaving now? the mission was not complete or only partially complete. my comrades had been killed and badly wounded. how did i feel about it? you feel terrible about it. at the end of the day your focus on the battlefield is on your comrades and it's very difficult to shake that. >> jack jacobs, we are going to rejoin with you in just a few minutes after this break as well as live coverage of this end of mission ceremony, right here on msnbc. stay with us. nyquil: you know i relieve coughs, sneezing, fevers? tylenol: me, too. and nasal congestion. nyquil:what? tissue box (whispering): he said nasal congestion... nyquil: i heard him. anncr vo: tylenol cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion... nyquil c

he could not make up his mind where he stood on vietnam. mcgovern left no doubt where he stood on the war. another point, mcgovern was genuinely against the war, but he was belittled in those days. although he was revered by the people who were against the war in vietnam, there were other people who did not see it that way. they would not dream of voting for george mcgovern. >> charles guggenheim filmed part of the campaign, including the senators speaking to a group of vietnam war veterans at a hospital. here is a little bit of that conversation. >> they love their country, there is no question about that. you are about halfway mad at it, are you not? >> when you lose control of your bowels, your bladder, your sterility where you cannot father a child, you'll never walk again for the rest of your life, you are 23-years old, you do not want to be a burden for your family -- do you know where you go from here? a nursing home. and you stay there until you die. -- until you rot. nobody thinks of a disabled veteran or a disabled anybody except

vietnam and maybe even now? that quotation would ring true today. >> it was extraordinary, but every other nation that has experienced the second world war eenemied with a strong sense of victimhood. they suffered and they knew it. the british utterly impoverished as well as been heavily bombed and rocketed and god knows what. there was the united states, which emerged from the war victorious, richer than they'd ever been in its history, its economy having expanded dramatically during the course of the war. and americans came out of the war feeling they'd not only been virtuous, which indeed they had, but not only been right, they'd also hugely increased and enlarged american power in the world, and they felt fantastically good about themselves. there was a contrast -- the british wanted to feel good about themselves. they felt the british generation who thought the war, we have done well. but then they're utterly broken and entirely dependent on american loans to pay the bills, and there they are living through

for one my father fought a war war two were had off of the fog korea because it was their fault and vietnam or so there has been a family member in the military since there have been a couple. that some point every soldier has to face the question like be able to kill another human being in the congo. this film is about killing in war and about some u.s. soldiers who have chosen not to the evidence is that far more soldiers refused to kill and we might expect in world war two research by the official u.s. army historian brigadier general s.l.a. marshall revealed that among the u.s. soldiers in combat less than twenty five percent actually fired their weapons at the enemy. even with their own lives at risk seventy five percent did not try to kill the enemy marshall wrote the average individual still has such an inner resistance toward killing a fellow man that he will not take a life if it is possible to turn away from that responsibility at the vital point he becomes a conscientious objector. when you start doing as a soldier as a human being or you want to live what. you have to ask yourse

you brought up vietnam.ey, we're all about the same age here, and we were all in high school and we were in college, remember there was a vietnam syndrome. i would love for there to be an iraq syndrome. i would love for the specter of iraq to haunt policy-makers for decades so that we don't make the same mistake which is difficult though because you look at the gop presidential crowd, they all think iraq was a good idea. they seem to all want to stay in iraq, and you hear in d.c. the constant drum beat for war with iran, so i -- i get upset because we're not holding people accountable for poor decisions. who was fired because of the iraq war, fired a couple of guys over the walter reid scandal? no generals or civilians were ever held accountable for what was possibly the greatest foreign policy disas it every all time so i think keep taking care of the vets but hold the folks in d.c. accountable for their decisions. >> yeah, and that's a critical distinction that we got backwards out of vietnam, holding sold

in the vietnam war and i haven't seen any numbers on the current war but i've talked to a whole lot of something isn't true leaders and people say. people are more lethal than they've ever imagined. i think. the problem with reflexive fire training is it does bypass their moral decision making process so as in previous wars before we had this kind of training a soldier would look at a target and think through you know thinking through should i shoot this person ok now i'm going to shoot well that takes time that's dangerous. when you train a reflexive lee don't they learn to make those decisions much more quickly but the price of that is they're not thinking through the great moral decision of killing another human being. we sleep comfortably in our beds at night because of violent men the violence on our behalf when i first read that i thought to myself i'm the person who allows people to sleep comfortably in their beds at night but i haven't actually gone to the violence yet. i grew up in an evangelical household in evangelical christian household i grew up hearing stories about the

soldiers that sort of their inner pain very often that they live with this person who wrote is a vietnam veteran who talked about he said the three fears that were in our twenty year old minds back then in the jungle one will i be able to stand up to combat when the bullets fly too will i survive but he mentions a third one and he described this fear as now i've been to the heart of darkness and done things that i supreme leader regret well i ever again be the person that i used to like. and he said this turns out to be the hardest question and it may go on and on answered for the rest of our lives. we share this story says thirty five years after a life changing experience. still looking for a way i think to to make sense of the experience of killing on behalf of all of us on behalf of this country so. we're not going to go back. what. do you know. when you're out there in the middle of combat sometimes. kill or be q. some people when you get into the first. and you actually wound or kill someone is to mess with the head and they start having mixed feelings about being in the situation

know, you got more than a million vietnamese dying of starvation because the japanese administering vietnam in those days hurt them ruthlessly for the interest of the japanese people, and they said afterwards their experience of 1943 and 1944 famines in vietnam are worse than the wars with the french and the united states later. it was worse with the b-52 bombings and over a million people, million and a half die of starvation in vietnam. food, food, food, they become obsessions, and generally, our parents and grandparents in the united states and britain were lucky because although the food was dreary and there was not enough made and housewives complained about how they couldn't buy steak, think about what was going on elsewhere. there was no significant hunger though in germany in may of 1954, post-hitler. systematically starved the rest of europe to feed his own people. the only time the germans got hungry was when the war ended and without hitler to watch after them, they were hungry. >> host: one of the most horrific antedotes is the siege of lono thrks grad and sawing off the leg of

era, the vietnam conflict. many controllers, more than 80%, came out of the military. many of them were disillusioned already with the government because of vietnam and what they experience to bear, and what they saw the faa deepened their dissolution. amid all these changes sentiment began to build among controllers, i show. that they could win for themselves if they stuck together we'll changes in their workplaces. that they could force the government to do something that it had never done before, fully recognize the collective bargaining rights of workers. that is, allow air traffic controllers to bargain over their wages and benefits and other parts of their job. they came to believe that they could win it. it was at precisely this moment that ronald reagan entered their lives and entered the picture. as their determination to improve their situation grew, then came the election between jimmy carter and ronald reagan. by this point the controllers were so disaffected with the carter administration's faa tha

it reached such cities as homesick and noble cbs its residents celebrating along with thailand and vietnam next midnight reached the cities of yet fifteen of berg and peons just an hour before muscovites celebrated the beginning of two thousand and twelve. and thousands were angry at the results of. russia's a parliamentary election results but this year's new year elections will take place in the race for russia's top job is on let's discuss it now with our karen the current chair hello karen and well happy new year to you first of all and will the new year also brings in new elections to russia tell us more about that. that's right happy new year to everybody very interesting first to say a very fond and very regulated new years here on red square everybody laughing yelling fireworks going off but more importantly with the protests this year in december amidst many many claims of ballot box stuffing that coming after the december fourth parliamentary elections where united russia did win two hundred thirty eight of the four hundred fifty horrible men. protesters took to the streets first

the vietnam and the quotation to me woodring somewhat true today. >> it was extraordinary, but every other nation that had experienced the second world war emerged with a strong sense of victimhood. they had suffered and the new eight. they were utterly impoverished as how well as having the heavily bombed rocketed and god knows what. that was the united states which emerged from the war victorious richer than they ever been in their history. the economy having expanded dramatically during the course of the war come and americans can out of the war feeling that the tattnall only been adventures which indeed, they had, but they had not only been right, they have also hugely increased and enlarged american power in the world, and they felt good about themselves it was between the british wanted them to feel good about themselves. they felt degeneration we had done well but then they find they are broken they've got no money and they depend on american loans to pay the bills, and there they are looking for this terrible phase of austerity and the collapse of the empire and so long, but

in i am a veteran of the vietnam war, the early part i was in the navy. i am a member of veterans for peace, although i am speaking for myself. we all know the " from eisenhower that the military industrial complex represents those that are hungry and it cetera. as i get older i see this more and more. we have 1000 bases around the planet, and it is time to be engaged to empire-building. it is going in the exact opposite direction of what humans need. the kind of corruption we of seen come out of halliburton is outstanding. when i was in the navy i washed my own clothes. 60 minutes reported that we taxpayers are paying $100 every time a load of clothes is washed in the middle east. this is insanity. this is the kind of waste that cut of the various description of where the services are being cut that you've been hearing this morning. i ride the buses and see the homeless, but i do not see the homeless anymore, i see the number one third. the suicide rate has been pointed out as increasing. i have been spending more and more time working on the front lines

after all got back from vietnam late 699 went back to the east coast, and a friend of mine and i used to go to washington and take pictures of these demonstrations we didn't have an opinion about them, but i couldn't believe the stuff that was being said about vietnam veterans, and they were portrayed as druggies and people could make it on the outside and to that nature later on i found this was basically a bunch of garbage and a better chance of getting a job and less severe side and less drug addictions in the general population and so on and never had anybody stand on this as can be proven but i'm not still in prison, and we didn't pay a lot of attention we hung around with people who were of our same way of thinking and we didn't pay any attention to it for the most part. >> there are a lot of books written about individual experiences during the vietnam. what messrs. different or sets it apart? >> based on the information feedback on the book this is not just another one of those vietnam books. i give people credit where credit is due, and as it came out i love to help other peo

he suffered a nervous breakdown in the vietnam war. during his long retirement his children and grandchildren did not see it defeated veteran, they saw someone passionate about the arts and education and passionate about caring for the vulnerable. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> good morning. my name is molly tobias, and i am a program director, one of stepping stones for adult day care centers in san francisco. we endorse the resolution bring the dollars home. in discussion of the national level on how to reduce the federal deficit, there are proposals to cut essential safety net programs for the elderly and not just medicaid but social security in medicare peer did you just witnessed a california legislator and the governor this year eliminate 88 seats as an option medicare benefits and the impact locally. increasingly we will see it costs passed on to our cities. we believe better prioritization of cuts along in reducing the fat from military expenditures toward funding domestic needs. so we can get back to a central programs

and it has all 58,000 names of those lost during the vietnam war. even though this wall is a replica, it brings out emotions and memories that are very real. >> i try not to get emotional here. my brother's on that wall. he's still m.i.a. so it obviously means an awful lot to me. this was the first wall that i ever saw. i saw this before i actually went down to d.c. to see the actual wall. >> oh, i like it. it's really interesting. it's cool how it's traveling around the country. it's interesting to hear about. i didn't know about it until today. >> so people can get to see, even if they can't travel. like, if it goes to someplace like l.a., they get to see a taste of washington, d.c., where they live. >> with military salute, i'm tyler. [ crunch! ] >> so, your friends want to go to the local fast-food restaurant, and you're gonna be virtuous and get the fish or chicken. but listen to this. >> fish and chicken oftentimes are not the best option. >> ellen shanley and colleen thompson are the authors of "fueling the teen machine." talk about counterin

-- you did not support it in vietnam? >> if you change the planning designation for one building, will everyone else want the same thing? you know that does not happen in the city. every project is very hard fought. president chiu: just to go back to supervisor mar's question, these are expensive. do you not think that would be a superior way to think about this if we could do that? >> the devil is in the details. where is the if, when you look at the affordable housing set aside, which spur helped write and which it supports. this is one of the most value pieces of land on the west coast. if that answers your question. president chiu: let me ask you a different question. spur has supported other projects. this has a 400-car garage, which i think will bring a lot more congestion in a part of town that is already congested. how did spur reconcile that piece of the project? >> there are two pieces to the parking. one is the one unit per space, which is pretty standard in the city. the other is simply replacing parking for t