the orchestra's performance was aimed at deepening bilateral friendships 30 years after the vietnam war ended. nhk world reports. >> reporter: the vietnam national symphony orchestra is based in hanoi. the country struggled for independence, founded the orchestra in 1959. the orchestra is conducted by a japanese veteran and many other orchestras worldwide. the 18 members include some of vietnam's most talented musicians. a 36-year-old cellist, was deined to make the carnegie performance a success. she joined the orchestra 11 years ago under the influence of her father, a musician. >> translator: i will try to express vietnamese feelings and hope they will be shared by our american audience. >> reporter: her father, lim, was the head of the orchestra, when it resumed its activities after the vietnam war. us air raids during the war destroyed their instruments and rehearsal center. his home was also bombed. a piano and cello, the family's treasures, were smashed to pieces. it wasn't until the mid 1980s, about a decade after the end of the vietnam war, that the orchestra began playing agai

and, of course, the vietnam wars turns out to have all too much in common with subsequent american war making in iraq and afghanistan. again atrocity-making situations and the results we've seen. one thing that we've had the work with vietnam veterans was also transformative that one could see these veterans undergo extraordinary change in a hopeful way. they could change their -- not only their attitude about the war but their relationship with other people and their families and their girlfriends in significant ways in a matter of months. while, of course, other things stayed the same. and this was a powerful lesson. a fourth study of nazi doctors was a real descent into evil. i've discovered how easy that descent is. nazi dollars hadn't killed anybody until they get to auschwitz and then they killed a lot of people. they were ordinary men who did these things rather than people who would have preferred them to be with a mark of cane on their foreheads, also, of course, the whole nazi project, killing to heal. and the whole psychology of genocide in which even outside of nazi behavio

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i'm gonna go with "no," because when my parents were teens, they were like -- the war -- thehc vietnam warand stuff. and their parents were kind of like, "hey, go join the war!" and they were kind of like, "mm, no." my dad grew up in brazil, so it's a little bit different there. >> i think it's easier because our parents couldn't escape from their parents 'cause they didn't have phones or computers. >> yeah, i do. because of the workload, school is a lot harder now, i think. >> i do, because there's a lot more technology around. when our parents were teenagers, if they had a problem with people, it was a face-to-face combat issue, but nowadays you can just do it anonymously. and you can really never know who it's coming from. >> if we put it to a vote, i think most teens would agree that life is tougher today than it was a couple of decades ago. i'm diyu for "teen kids news." >> this report is brought to you by drive to the auto shows, discovery hd theater.s >> well, if it's autumn, it must be time to talk about new cars. from the floor of the los angeles auto show, there's a lot of shiny

that is why it is painted now that the vietnam war really built the protest. it did do that, but it also solidified opposition to the war to the advantage of richard nixon. >> scott farris, all of this and the impact of the war on mcgovern -- what did it do? >> akaka to lose perspective a little bit, to be honest. -- it caused him to lose perspective a little bit, to be honest. he made several trips to vietnam and saw soldiers who had lost limbs and been crippled for life. he spoke again about the war in terms that were very strong, harsh, and uncompromising. he gave a speech before the u.s. senate in 1970 and said "this chamber reeks of blood." when you use that language, it will energize the anti-war folks, but it surprises a lot of voters who thought that he would withdraw american without any honor and maybe not worry about what would happen to the prisoners of war there. he was so passionate about war, the used language to describe it. he also wanted to did the american people the sense that they have ownership of this war. they were partly culpable. this

he suffered a nervous breakdown in the vietnam war. during his long retirement his children and grandchildren did not see it defeated veteran, they saw someone passionate about the arts and education and passionate about caring for the vulnerable. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> good morning. my name is molly tobias, and i am a program director, one of stepping stones for adult day care centers in san francisco. we endorse the resolution bring the dollars home. in discussion of the national level on how to reduce the federal deficit, there are proposals to cut essential safety net programs for the elderly and not just medicaid but social security in medicare peer did you just witnessed a california legislator and the governor this year eliminate 88 seats as an option medicare benefits and the impact locally. increasingly we will see it costs passed on to our cities. we believe better prioritization of cuts along in reducing the fat from military expenditures toward funding domestic needs. so we can get back to a central programs

vietnam. he ended up escalating the war in 1969 and 1970 by having u.s. troops invade cambodia and trying to disrupt supply lines from north vietnam. early in the nixon presidency, the war seemed to be expanding, not winding down. this outraged the anti-war movement and gave mcgovern more emphasis to run against nixon. later, as it came closer to the election, nixon understood he needed to start disengaging american troops so that by 1972, there were only a couple hundred thousand combat troops in vietnam. as mcgovern was making the decision to run, he thought nixon was escalating the war, not winding it down. >> 1971, the pentagon papers are first published. what is the impact of this? >> the pentagon papers were not as revealing as they were said to be. a lot of things in the pentagon papers were known. it gave more credibility to what was, at the time, mixed public feelings about protesting the vietnam war. the impression now is that the country was totally in uproar against the war in vietnam in the late 1960's. it really was not. it was split. >> you

is that he basically squandered four years of support for our war in vietnam, and even though in latter time after he was succeeded things went much, much better near the end the congress and probably the people ran out of patience and support for the war. even when we were just giving the money they were motivated to pull the plug. .. in a way similar to what the general westmoreland did and when we changed commanders general david petraeus came and i think it exhibited a more abrams like understanding of the nature of the war and how we should be conducted. many of you know that when he came back into the period between his service in iraq and in afghanistan general petraeus was in fort leavenworth and tasked with writing a new counter insurgency manual would be issued by both the army and marine corps it is a well done document and if you read it you will be amazed at the parallel i think between the prescriptions there and what general abrams did when he later took command. that is a rather long answer but you ask a fundamental question and i thank you for that. >> i don't kn

is that he basically squandered four years of support for our war in vietnam, and even though in he was succeeded things went much, much better near the end the congress and probably the people ran out of patience and support for the war. even when we were just giving the money they were motivated to pull the plug. .. has about the situation now in iraq and afghanistan, i can't profess to any particular expertise but i will say in the early and latter years of our involvement in iraq we did seem to see a similar pattern and that the early commanders one about the war in a way similar to what generallar westmoreland did and i'm only change commanders there arehan general david petraeus came in and i think exhibited a moreo abrams like understanding of thd nature of the war and howin itne should be conducted. many of you know came back into the period between his service in iraq and in afghanistan general petraeus was in fort leavenworth and tasked with writing a new counter insurgency manual would be issued by both the army and marine corps it is a well done document and if you re

is that he basically squandered four years of support for our war in vietnam, and even though in latter time after he was succeeded things went much, much better near the end the congress and probably the people ran out of patience and support for the war. even when we were just giving the money they were motivated to pull the plug. .. in a way similar to what the general westmoreland did and when we changed commanders general david petraeus came and i think it exhibited a more abrams like understanding of the nature of the war and how we should be conducted. many of you know that when he came back into the period between his service in iraq and in afghanistan general petraeus was in fort leavenworth and tasked with writing a new counter insurgency manual would be issued by both the army and marine corps it is a well done document and if you read it you will be amazed at the parallel i think between the prescriptions there and what general abrams did when he later took command. that is a rather long answer but you ask a fundamental question and i thank you for that. >> i don't kn

i can recall when i was in law school, i basically gave that up because the war in vietnam was going on, and people did not know about it. i spent all of my time talking to people about the war. we helped build an anti-war movement that helped stop the war. i think what is really important is the push back. this is part of that. thank you very much. supervisor avalos: thank you. >> go ahead and cut the budget. go ahead and cheap a friend. -- cheat a friend. there will not be any trumpets blowing on the budget day. when you bring it back, the budget for the military and bring the budget back today. [applause] supervisor avalos: i am not sure we need another speaker after that. seeing no one else come forward, we will close public comment. colleagues, we have this item before us. i want to thank the new priorities campaign for there's work on the resolution coming forward. labor and faith and community groups that are here today and in touch with constituencies around the city and in the bay area. thank you for your work. this is a small resolution with the big message that is clear. we

set the stage. >> the vietnam war had been going on for 15 years. s obvious to everyone that the war was not being won. it reached all the way to the american embassy in saigon. approval johnson's ratings just plummeted. mccarthy had been in the race in the fall. bobby kennedy was joining the race. it was utter chaos. right after, president johnson resigned, three days later martin luther king was assassinated. the first part of the year was a terrible chaos. >> people were turning on their radios to wake up and there seemed to be another huge story every day. we will try to tell some of that story. we will be here for two hours. as we are here, we will learn more about the history of the time and the biography of senator humphrey. we will begin taking your telephone call so you can be part of our discussion. what is important for young people to understand is what is different about the wars we fight today is the draft. this was real in the sense for american families. a very different way than the professional army that we have today. can you talk

percent during the korean war i was introduced as not a trained maybe five to ninety percent in the vietnam war and i haven't seen any numbers on a kurd war but. i thought of a lot of. people say. people are more lethal believe every man. think. the problem with reflexive fire training is it does bypass their moral decision making process so as in previous wars before we had this kind of training a soldier would look at a target and think through you know thinking through should i shoot this person ok now i'm going to shoot what i think's time that's dangerous. when you train a reflexive lee don't they learn to make those decisions much more quickly but the price of that is they're not thinking through the great moral decision of killing another human being. we sleep comfortably in our beds at night because a violent men do violence on our behalf when i first read that i thought to myself i'm the person who allows people to sleep comfortably in their beds at night but hadn't actually gone to do the violence yet. i grew up in an evangelical household in eventual christian household i grew up hea

here's the guy who supported the vietnam war, but wouldn't go. with clinton, he dodged it, too but he was opposed to the war and that is a consistent position. he didn't like the war and didn't want to go. i get that. okay. but, bush, he was for the war back then, and thought other people should go, not him. so he gets -- strings are pulled and he's in the national guard and his name is on the very first stone as you enter the world war ii memorial? a war my uncle died in, 405,000 americans died in, and your name is on this? i'm like, you know, it took me back to the question about, you know, yes, they are really good at supporting war, getting us into wars, but if they had to die or their kid had to die, no, i don't know about that. but, somebody else's kid... just abhorrent to me. >> there's a story in "here comes trouble" about your father and his world war ii experience and there's a story in there about you taking a trial run to canada. >> my dad was in the first marine division, world war ii. and he was in many of those island battles right

what is his name doing on the world war ii -- here is a guy who supported the vietnam war but wouldn't go. at least with clinton, he got it too but he was opposed to the war. that with a consistent position. he didn't like the war so didn't want to go. i get that. but bush was for the war back then and he thought other people should go, not him. so he is in the national guard. then his name is on the very first stone as you enter the world war ii memorial? 400,000 americans died in an your name is on this, it took me back to the question about they are really good at supporting war, getting us into wars but if they have to die or their kid had to die, don't know about that. let somebody else's kid die. >> host: there's a story about your father and his world war ii appearance and a story about you taking a trial run to canada. >> my dad was in the first marine division in world war ii and was in many of those on the beaches, horrific. i tell this one story about christmas day of 1943 when he was in the battle of new britain in part of the beginning. and it was a friendly fire incident

massachusetts and that senator kerry's campaign would be trying to reintroduce him to america as the vietnam warero that he was, karl rove took john kerry's heroic war record, his purple hearts and his bronze star and his silver star, and he made them bad somehow. karl rove used those things against john kerry as if john kerry's war record was somehow bad, especially in comparison to the vietnam war record of george w. bush, who never left alabama, but he did get the outfit. that's the karl rove chapter in the big book of modern american political tactics. however wrong or dishonest it is, it can work when you get out ahead of the public, when you are out ahead, when you're able to define your opponent before they can define themselves. you can take their best quality, and you can twist it to make it bad. it's sort of astonishing when you look back at it from a distance, but when this karl rove tactic works it really works. when it doesn't work, though, it really, really doesn't work. take the scott brown versus elizabeth warren senate race that is shaping up in massachusetts. karl rove and his

of course, he had been a pow in world war -- in the vietnam war and organized a -- how to have pow resistance. he won something like 26 medals, numerous silver stars, medal of honor winner. he later became president of a neighbor -- naval war college. we are dealing with a very serious person. ross perot admired him. he thought this was the type of person we needed in government. he chose him as his vice president which is an interesting choice. what people forget in 1992, ross perot did well in the debates. he clearly won the first debate against clinton and bush. some people would say he won all three. that is how he got to 19%. in three debates, he was at 8%. postdates he got up to 19%. stockdale struggle. he only had about one week to prepare. he got out of the gate wrong by making a comment like, who am i? other people had not heard of him before. he actually got a lot of applause when he did the debate but the media want to count on him. he really was not ready for it -- for that media frenzy you have to expect. it made some people question whether ross perot could be president because

military has been engaged in since the war in vietnam. re's how one iraqi political analyst described it to al jazeera. >> i think everyone lost this war. there is no winners there. >> we start today with two iraq war veterans, john soltz who only recently returned from another tour in iraq to chair his position at votevets.org. matt ho, a former marine corps captain and state department official who serves as a senior fellow at the center for international policy. i have learned much from both of these men, and they have a perspective that those of us who have not been to these wars simply could never have. john, first off, welcome home. obviously everybody must be delight that had you're here safe and sound. >> i'm glad to be here with you, dylan. time to fire it up like the old days. >> all right. if you want to do it, then let's do it. what do we -- you're the person in this conversation most recently in the country we're discussing. what is the canary in the coal mine for people like myself and every other american as we try to gauge

, interstate and civil war, what you find is a bumpy decline with peaks for the korean war, the vietnam war, the runner-up for. in the last ten years the figures hug the floor. basically a narrow little strike can't see the picture. describing the numbers. during a the worst years of world war ii the death rate for more was about 300 per hundred thousand per year. during the late 1940's and early 1950's it had fallen to about 22. in the last -- in this past decade it has been one third of a death per one of the -- 100,000 people per year using a costa yardstick a battle. this is the phenomenon i have been calling the new piece, so it would be a bit of an exaggeration, but not too much of an exaggeration to say if the dream of the 1960's folk singers is almost coming true. that is, the world is almost putting an end to war. what are the immediate causes? one influential ipod this is in 1795 in his perpetual peace essay which he proposed that democracy, interstate trade, and an international community would drive down the likelihood of war . recently apparent political scientists have tested

in 1968, lynden johnson was faced with a vietnam war. and he decided that he would not seek a second term. and he went on television and said, i will not seek nor accept the nomination for another term in the office of presidency. >> right. >> do you think obama is entertaining anything like that. >> no. >> if the polls continue to drop. >> no. >> and say beyond the -- below the level. >> having supported him and voted for him, i wish he would entertain not running for a second term. i don't think there's a slightest chance, not at the slightest chance in heaven or hell that he will not win for a second term. >> you think he can take an international route? because he knows the heads of state. he like him. he does work for news those international settings like honolulu. [everyone talking at once] taking on the problem of our debt in the united states, being a not a byproduct but being part of a much larger phenomenon, namely, the whole planet? [everyone talking at once] why can't there be a convocation that will stay in existence, from

the strikes steel coordinator handpicked by maher was a decorated vietnam war he wrote. most of the thousands of vietnam era veterans in the unions ranks had not been drafted into the service. they had willingly enlisted. after their discharge they had applied for jobs at the faa because they found the work better paying than there better options because it was exciting, because it offered them something unavailable to americans who lack college degrees, as most controllers there. chance to become professionals. they were striking out because they felt that they had to protect their profession from the degradation of diminished real earnings and increased stress. i don't even think air traffic controllers should have the right to strike, explained the 33 old strike leader at the faa's huge air route traffic control center outside washington. we are striking against the federal government now because, for 10 years, we have exhausted every means at our disposal with the government. at this point we have been forced to strike. a marine veteran, one of the plays firefights of

the vietnam war was over. there was talks with russia. we had a trilingual -- triangular relationship. the next step was to be improving relations with europe. that design could not be implemented because within four months, watergate to blow up. the part of the second term that nixon -- we still did some extraordinary things. the 1973 middle east war and brought in from the soviet side to the american side. that is not a good example. that is an example of crisis management under extreme circumstances. it is not a gooexample of how the energy system -- many the only thing you can take from the energy system is it survived that strain. it enabled nixon to continue making decisive decisions at key moments. i do not think you can draw lessons for the sake of the country. i think it was a national tragedy. it was self-inflicted and parts. it also pushed to an extreme that many historians will think -- >> let me stay with that for a moment. as the watergate intensify, was like inside national-security issues? >> throughout its. in office, pre

>> people would ask me during the vietnam war. i was a teenager and i would say, he was head of this phoenix program, they would say, your father is an assassin. he is a murderer. i would say, what is you talk -- what are you talking about? where those people being killed? i they just enemy? is he doing the right thing? that is against the explanation that we took even in this film to go through and see what does history tell us, what did he tell us? i would say he was an honorable man. he took the hit. he made the sacrifice by revealing the secrets of the cia at that point in the 1970's when president ford and the rest of the elk wanted him -- ilk wanted him to lie. tavis: how much of this could you put to your father while he was living? when your friends are saying your father is a murderer, and you have questions in your mind about what your father is doing. how much of this can you say at dinner? >> it was open season. we would argue about everything. his way of being, he was not a tough, british, a big physical, masculine, b

every progressive movement america from abolition of women's suffrage to civil rights to end of the vietnam war where do you think the church is going to come to one of the one who are going to see the church start showing up people dressed like you are. boy this is that this is the question that i. ponder and i worry about because we need to have a lingering in the prophetic side in this moment we're used to. giving charitable gifts to the needy we like to keep them right where they are and sedentary matter fact trinity church does that and occupy wall street does not appreciate that this is grateful for that i saw them many times to jim cooper the rector but please i asked him i asked him please embrace this dynamic quality of justice this is a this is the this is the time in history where we need to right the wrong there is this ache for justice in this country and you can be of any political persuasion and know that and so your quote you're open question is a good one tom i i don't know i didn't see many church leaders lined up alongside of the occupy wall street although there's an occupy

during the vietnam war americans fought with old by military power is a cruel one they could not win with conventional weapons alert. in order to defeat the vietcong psychological operations i expect so i could friedman counted on musical rule fans to tip the scales we had at tanks with loud speakers alone and we had jeeps of loud speakers we had aircraft that could fly over with loud speakers and we had men that actually put the loudspeakers on their back they had little packs a day would and they would just walk right into the jungle and they would play it. the americans wanted to beats the vietnamese with military might but at the same time when that hearts and minds therefore they commissioned pro-american songs to win them over. but when the vietcong intensified their attacks the us military strategy changed from now on ear resounds poured out of the backpack speakers. is it the knees have a tradition that if you don't die close to home you know buried close to home your soul will wander forever so the americans actually used that start a campaign called the wandering soul and w