>> commissioner vietor? >>commissioner francesca vietor: maybe i missed this. is this going to last forever, this excessive charge issue or is this time bound? >> no. i don't recall there is an expiration in here but we would definitely bring this back for rescindance if there is an end to the drought. >> we have to bring this to the board if there is a mandatory restriction. >> this is in response to them. we have to take an action to remove it. >> okay. that's not going to be an issue because there is no reason that they would, if one of these big users expands their property or they get an expanded use permit, what would happen with something like this if they start to use additional water? >> actually what i truly expect to have happen is if as you implement conservation, it generally takes and it takes, unless you are going to the point of distressing plants, if you are making changes to respond to us and practices that respond to pressures of conservation, that's what we've seen historically through the whole area that capital use goes down. >> for practi

commissioner vietor? >>commissioner francesca vietor: yes, i would like to respond to that because i have been interested in some of these questions too especially around the generations piece about the rim fire and the importance of redundancy in our system and what it might look like especially as we start to lose power capacity. i would love to hear at some point a deeper conversation particularly on the potential for some distributed generation not only in the energy sector but also in the water space and what that might look like to have some, i noticed the puc building, the model with the living machine system, but what else might be some opportunity whether it's new developments coming online and taking it to the next generation of distributing the generation either the generation or distribution of water and energy. >> we can do that and we were talking a little bit about emergency response and recovery which we have shelves full of plans that we use and talking about decentralized treatment and i

>>commissioner francesca vietor: i have a question. i love this idea that the youth are getting exposed to different career opportunities through these learning projects. i also love the idea that they are getting some experience on the presentation and work that they have done. i'm wondering if this can involve in the strategy because even if they don't end up being a civil engineer or work for the puc they can develop skills around presentations and i know we are going to hear from a couple of the youth, so i'm looking forward to that and i would love for that to continue to be an opportunity that is presented as well. >> definitely. where the staff have done an amazing job is that they have taken the time to pause between last summer and this summer and say what worked and what didn't work. we know we wanted to have a much clearer tie to making sure that all people whether you are in an internship program or one of seven vehicles that all of them have an experience and they all have a tour of the facity and they have an equal sxoent

. >> commissioner vietor has words of wisdom. >> one thing that we have been talking about and moving at and moving toward implementation off is using recycled water because a lot of the potable water, currently goes to non-potable necessary uses like watering of the parks and golf course and whatnot. and my understanding is that there might be some opportunity, especially at city hall, because i brought this up at the last meeting as well, and i think that it has been quite interesting in sacramento has done to allow portions of their lawn to go brown to use that as a message to talk about the drought and pay attention to the issue. and i am wondering if we could hear if there is any progress made on the recycled water, because even to do something like that, and put a sign up, that says... >> totally. >> because of the drought and the conditions that we are facing, we are making a commitment as a city, to move more grasses to the recycled water space. and you know, to short of going brown, or what you have. because you we to in the beautiful city or what have you, could you speak to

. >> seconded by vietor. any other public comment on this item? >> seeing none, public comment is now closed. commissioners any further discussion? >> i will go ahead and call the vote. all of those in favor, signify by saying aye. >> aye. >> and the ayes have it and the motion carries, commissioner vietor. so on the excessive charge conversation, i mean that i think that some of the issues that are developed around the appeals process that it would be important that the next meeting to hear about what that would really look like and what that would mean and maybe even to get a better sense of this 1600 irrigation users who are and don't have, sort of the city agencies of have that as a quarter of that and sort of that a rec and park and how does that break out and i don't know if you can do this in the next couple of weeks, is there going to be any real hard issues with some of these users that you would anticipate, by an excessive charge, you know, mandatory, reduction. you know, and is that potential for them to go over the usage? as far as you

. >> vietor. >> here. >> and moran. >> here. >> torres. >> here. >> and commissioner caen is excused. >> we would like to approve. >> moved. >> any public comment? >> seeing no public comment, i will call a roll, signify by saying aye. if there is no objections from the colleagues, i will call item number eight out of order and i am going to hang it over to the general manager, kelley. >> and thank you very much. and and i just wanted to provide this afternoon to talk to you about proposed legislation, that supervisor weiner is presenting. from the conversations that we have been having about the financial situation, and we have been as we presented to the commission and the mayor's office and to the board, at that time, we had some consider concerns about our financial situation, and a couple of things that we were highlighting was that one, we were concerned about general fund departments and raising the general fund rates, and two we were talking about, mount tunnel and that was a major concern, that impacted our ability, or our financial situation. and we rec, which is a regulator

. >> commissioner vietor >> just a question about this precipitation graph and if there is any other data that you have been learning as you plot out these graphs around precipitation, whether it is starting to come later, during the year, because something that you said around, you know, you are much more pleased that what you were thinking was going to happen in january, is not happening. because there has been additional rain fall and one thing that says to me is that there is more and there is later rain fall happening during the year. and that that might have applications for the water banking and when we do the projections and our storage. and so, i guess that my question is, is, can we tell, either from this chart, or are you tracking whether our rain fall is starting indeed to come later in the year? and what are the implications for our water banking or for our, you know, planning and forecasting of the water use. >> yeah, one of the things that we see is that every year is different and if you can pull up the slide again and you pull back up the precipitation slide. and tha

>> commissioner vietor? >> so, food waste? >> the... >> does it have the capacity? >> the technology, that we are building has full capacity to handle the food waste and in fact, in oslow in addition to meeting with the company, that owns this technology, we did tour a plant which is a food waste only plant. and it is a plant that was built to take all of the food waste for the entire city of oslow commercial and residential and generates energy, that is then turned into cng and fuels and the public fleet. food waste, definitely produces a lot more energy, by virtue of the process. and, so there is a lot more positive to it. and our challenge as we look forward is actually to handling of the food waste. you know, again today, the city has a contract with them to actually pick up the food waste, and recology has indicated that they do not have the capacity to segregate the food in the city and so they transport it by truck and they are planning to build a digester in vacaville and to feed the fuel of the truck that are being used to transport. and so we have the capa

. >> great, i think that i appreciate the dialogue and i appreciate when commissioner vietor can shed the light on it because i am inclined to know. but i do and i want to understand as our partners because, we could be engaging in partner, and in such a way that it, and it gives them an opportunity to engage all of these other partners and men, without really intending to do it and we set something up. and that is not really beneficial to our rate pairs and not beneficial to the urban forest and the community workforce and that the point that i am trying to make, it requires more thoughtful and deliberation about these partnerships. >> thank you. >> back to the communication and out reach, just for a second. i think even to take the conversation and you see that we think about communication and out reach, it is an ever advising thing and we always say that we want the perfect out reach strategy and the perfect out reach out come, but in reality, it is often times the question of how you are driving to get there and to make sure that you are constantly moving in that direction. everyt

. >> commissioner vietor >> just a question about this precipitation graph and if there is any other data that you have been learning as you plot out these graphs around precipitation, whether it is starting to come later, during the year, because something that you said around, you know,

. >> commissioner vietor >> just a question about this precipitation graph and if there is any other data that you have been learning as you plot out these gr

. >> commissioner vietor >> just