when matt asked me to introduce vikki this was a tough one. it could be the last time we get to work with vikki. enough to workky with her for eight years. when i was d.c. policy director i, when irst met vikk first got to meet her. what a lot of people do not know when you are the d.c. medicaid director, you get invited to a lot of meetings. the reason you get invited to a lot of meetings is not because you are important or you are doing innovative stuff, it is because of all of you medicaid directors who say i can not to be at that meeting and they need another person. -- md ort be an empty kaiser, they ask you to come. maryland andsk a virginia. virginia is a long drive. i always say no. seeland, they are like we these people too much. as the distant director you get to go. that is why was lucky enough to meet vikki and got to meet with her way back then. the other thing is we actually lived in similar neighborhoods. there would be times we would be out to dinner and my wife and i and kids was see vikki and her family and you get to say hi