you are saying that viktor 0rban is spearheading...terms in terms of securing and maintaing power. his foreign minister, peter szijjarto, rejects your comments which you have just laid out, saying, unworthy of your position and you should resign. i respectfully disagree with the foreign minister. finally, what do you think you have done in your time to advance the cause of human rights globally? do you think you've really made a change? what i've been able to do is continue the trajectory that i inherited from my predecessors. that is, give voice, without fear or favour, in support of those most vulnerable. those who need the voice of an office like ours. we simply cannot treat all these disasters as if they were the product of some natural phenomenon. a flood here, force majeure, an earthquake. much of the suffering of people is caused by humans and it's not just that we need to focus, you as the international media and ourselves, the plight, the grievous suffering of individuals. we need to look at who is causing the suffering and sa

that gets a lot closer to what the attitudes are that are being stoked by political leaders like viktor 0rban. do you mean it's not legitimate to be concerned about migration? no, i think it absolutely should, and i think that ratherjust dealing with north african countries, as nesrine was talking about, i wait for the eu summit where the organisation of african unity has a full seat at the table to discuss this, because most of the migrants are coming from sub—saharan africa or from the horn of africa. they end up in north africa for embarkation. and i think that when you talk of a regional settlement, it has to be almost — it has to be, you know, well down as far as nigeria, at least, in order to begin to get some coordination and just to deter people and to break up the gangs that go into the villages and say, "oh, you can go to europe, give me $10,000," and then they end up drowning in the middle of the mediterranean. yes, and it is still the people smugglers who benefit in that way, and that is an issue that we've barely touched on. let'sjust, though, we must turn to other matters discus