you say you're a staunch conservative, you've been a more genuine, longer—term conservative than viktor 0rban done on that key issue of lgbt rights? well, we have now consensus in the opposition. the consensus is that gay marriage will be allowed, it will become legal in hungary and it's... before you ask, it's not in contradiction with my faith — my catholic faith — since i honestly believe that the catholic church can have their own opinion. but in a secular state, i, as a catholic, can still follow my own conviction and still grant same rights to same—sex couples as a statesman. there's another law which was passed recently in hungary, which bans, quote, "homosexualand transsexual propaganda". will you undo that, as well? absolutely. right away. it has not done anything else. it was just serving propaganda purposes for 0rban. of course, the relationship between hungary and european law is complex in several areas, so let's quickly talk about migration. fidesz, the ruling party, passed a law which makes it a criminal offence for people or organisations to help asylum seekers and refugees to

you made your points about viktor 0rban.at viktor 0rban's approach to migrants has been, in their view, unfair and counter to international law, you're saying that you would be even tougher on migrants, are you? well, definitely tougher on criminals. 0rban has also helped islamist terrorists that are known internationally — wanted criminals — to come to hungary and receive a residency permit with the help of his citizenship bond programme. so, i will be much tougher on them, that's for sure. see, underpinning my questions, whether it be on the lgbt issue or whether it be on the migration issue, is a fundamentally important point. are you prepared to accept that european law trumps hungarian law, that, unlike in poland, for example, or unlike in the mind of mr 0rban, you are prepared, on this show, to say, "if i am the leader of hungary, "we will abide by all european law "and rulings of the european cou rt" ? all well, i am a federalist, if that is your question, which means that i very much accept. i actually want a much st