our guests are viktor mayer-schonberger and kenneth cukier. we're discussing the pluses and pitfalls of big data. you can find us online at fora tv. and, of course, everybody wants to know, ken, you know, data editor? what is -- you're not a data input clerk, right? >> i'm not a data input clerk. >> okay. now we've got a promotion from the universe. what is a data editor? >> it is a new title. i am the first one. we understand at the economy that data is more and more important to our readers. we've been in the data journalism game for about 160 years, so it's nothing new there. but we recognize that there's new techniques in terms of how to visualize data, that we can data as the basis of stories instead of, if you will, anecdotal-based journalism where you sort of pattern recognition of the story through talking to people that we can interview a database. just as our sources might lie to us as a journalist, the data might lie as well so we have to keep our suspicions up. but we can crunch lots of numbers to either visualize it, or we can act