, well, but you see, viktor orban defeated him in 18, viktor orban defeated peter marquisoy himself invasion helped him , and now there is such an unknown peter madir, who, apart from saying that he is some kind of tyrant, a narcissist. and it is not clear who, while nothing can be blamed on him, and you see, this one, he meets the expectations of society, that the system is rotten, system and this is my next question, i.e. can we say that we are seeing signs of fatigue, that maybe everyone likes him, maybe he is a wonderful person for the magyars, for the hungarians, but simply when it has been on majority tv for 14 years, then somehow he is just gets bored am i right to be honest, it looks like not just fatigue, an internal protest, because you know, hungarians have been tired for a long time, but their viktor orbán, again, i will not be afraid of this word, a talented politician, he entertained them with the soros plan, migrants, various horror stories, there are lgbt people, that these lgbt activists will take your children there, and we will save them, well, that is a big nonse

viktor orban .show 24/7, which is one idea. tucker carlson also spoke at the conference. in 2023 c pack held a seven -- second conference. most had thought he had lost his enthusiasm for -- democracy. >> ratings -- greetings to see pack. i wish i was there in budapest. if i ever get fired, have some time and can leave i will be there with you. in the meantime, godspeed. we're thinking of you and cheering you on. >> i should know, while that message aired in 2023, just a week and a half after tucker carlson was fired from fox news it was apparently prerecorded. true to his word, once he was actually fired tucker carlson traveled to hungary later that summer to interview his friend, viktor orban. so it seems that hungary is a very popular travel destination for the right-wing crowd. they cannot get enough of the place. and the admiration appears mutual. in 2022 viktor orban not only got to join the main stage on see pack, he was the opening act. >> ladies angela, this is how we fight. a speech by the

donald trump, he did it and earlier, donald trump did, participated in the election campaign of viktor orbánn 2022, he also wrote letters in support of orbán, here, so for example. some of these moments, you know, they're not exactly political moments, but it's like, it 's trump politics, yeah, so bannon, who's back on trump's team, yeah, with trump came to power in the 16th year, then banon seemed to leave, in fact, but he did not leave, he called orbán a trump before trump, and they are really similar, that is, viktor orbán is such a role model for these trumpists, who are now for all circumstances. have already taken over the republican party in the end, he is a role model in what sense, that is, relatively speaking, trump, who in a separate country did not just come to power with his opinion, his style and agenda, yes, but he is already, well, viktor orban for 14 years continuously in power and he's all like that, you know, that is, this is trump , who succeeded, this is a role model, that's why viktor orbán is very popular, by the way, among these circles, i won't say that in general am

and donald trump often spoke favorably of hungarian prime minister viktor orbán, though at least onceing him with the head of turkey, it seems, in addition, orbán himself and the hungarian government. who is largely isolated in europe and also has obvious friction with the administration in washington, wants to show that he is not isolated, the hungarian prime minister, the hungarian foreign minister, who accompanied mr. orbán on the trip to florida, made every effort to emphasize that they , that hungary, the hungarian leader has... a lot of friends in the united states, and this is obviously an investment, because let's not forget that not only is donald trump now campaigning for the presidency, but also in there is actually an election campaign in europe, and mr. orbán, as the leader of hungary and the leader, representative of one of the parties that are called nationalist or far-right and authoritarian, he is competing. in order for his party, as well as allied parties in other european countries, to win as many seats as possible in the european parliament in the elections to the

viktor orban.e minister recommended that tucker carlson's fox news show 24/7, which is one idea. tucker carlson also spoke at that conference. in 2023, they held a second conference in hungary. this time he stayed home. but unless anyone thinks he had losses or enthusiasm for the democracy, tucker carlson put those concerns to rest. >> greetings to hungary, it is all you americans in the audience. you are very brave. i wish i was there in budapest. if i ever get fired and have some time, i will be there with you. but in the meantime, god speed. we are thinking of you, cheering you on. >> while that message aired in 2023 just a week and a half after tucker carlson was fired from fox news, it was apparently pre-recorded. so true to his word, once he was fired, tucker carlson traveled to hungary later that summer to interview his friend, viktor orban. so it seems hungary is a really popular travel destination for the right wing maga crowd. they cannot get enough of the place. and the admiration appear

he called viktor orban, the president of turkey at one point. so let's remember that, but no, i mean, look, this is viktor orban has become almost like bukele and el salvador, some meme for the right in terms of strength, you see that he flirts around with almost endorsing putin donald trump does, and viktor orban as a strongman, that since he's in nato and since he's european, donald trump can just outright embrace and that's what he's doing. he's signaling to the base and the republican party that somehow think a strongman like this is good and really all just has to do with making the left mad. that's what he's doing. he's signaling that this is really bad. viktor orban, all you have to do is watch anytime aid for ukraine comes up in the eu, for instance, they always block it until they get some payoff on the side. or even sweden's accession into nato was delayed because viktor orban, turkey, i mean, hungry finally came around and accepted sweden, but he's been very clearly sympathetic to vladimir putin and russia. and i think donald trump wa

and viktor orban is a strong man. that since he's in nato and since he's european, donald trump can just outright embrace. and that's what he's doing. he's signaling to the base in the republican party that somehow think a strong man like this is good. it really all just has to do with making the left mad, that's what he's doing. he's signaling that. and this is really bad. viktor orban. all you have to do is watch anytime aid for ukraine comes up in the eu. for instance. they always block it until they get some payoff on the side or even sweden's accession into nato was delayed because viktor orban, turkey, i mean, hungary finally came around and accepted sweden, but he's been very clearly sympathetic to vladimir putin and russia. and i think donald trump wants to signal that to his base. >> maggie, we heard from kristen holmes just a second ago that it was orban who was reaching out to the folks at mar-a-lago to try to get on the on the president's schedule from the former president's standpoint. it it certainly see

viktor orban. all you have to do is watch anytime aid for ukraine comes up in the eu, for instance, they always block it until they get some payoff on the side or even sweden's accession into nato was delayed because viktor orban, turkey, i mean, hungary finally came around and accepted sweden. but he's been very clearly sympathetic to vladimir putin and russia. and i think donald trump wants to signal that to his base. >> maggie, we heard from kristen holmes just a second ago that it was orban who was reaching out to the folks at mar-a-lago to try to get on the on the president's schedule from the former president's standpoint, it certainly seems to have been not only just a meeting of the minds, but also makes sense to have a contrast with the current president. >> yeah, i think there's a bunch of things going on, anderson. it's also worth remembering that the former president hosted viktor orban at the white house in 2019. this is not some new relationship. the former president has certainly rat

just for our viewers, to remind them, viktor orban doesn't believe liberal democracy can work. he's packed courts with loyalists and seized control of media outlets. he's friends with putin. he's friends with xi. this is what trump said about orban on friday. >> there's nobody who is better, smarter or a better leader than viktor orban, the prime minister of hungary and does a great job. he's a non-controversial figure because he says this is the way it's going to be and that's the end of it, right? he's the boss. >> do you think viktor orban's leadership is something that trump aspires to in a second term? >> think the best way to judge president trump's second term is by what he did in his first term. you know, russia didn't invade on president trump's watch. hamas didn't try to destroy israel on his watch. the afghanistan -- the taliban weren't in charge on his watch. here's what i would say. if you're worried about the world being on fire, you're right. if you think joe biden's poliies lack in deterrence and has weakened the enemies, you're right. you'd better get back donal

the former president invited hungarian prime minister viktor orban to his mar-a-lago estate. today, he's repeatedly praised the leader for his hardline policies and inflammatory rhetoric and see and national correspondent kristen holmes joins me now, kristen what do we expect to see today >> well, it's really unclear what we're actually going to see today and talk to the trump's team, a senior adviser telling me that this was a social meeting by that they meant a friendly meeting with no agenda. now of course, it's hard to believe that within man like orban and a man like trump, but there is absolutely no agenda, but that's what they're telling us today, is that they might put pictures out, they might even put a readout out, but the one thing to really note here is that this cannot be an official meeting because donald trump is not currently a world leaders so he has no obligations to report any part of his conversation with the hungarian prime minister. the other thing to point out here is that the white house did not issue a formal invitation into orban and on top of that,

viktor orban has been transparent.n in terms. he has embraced the reality he is a far right nationalist who demonizes the other, be it immigrants or liberal elites or whoever is in his firing line that given day. he has used his power to essentially silence critics and ensure his party remains in power. he has essentially a mussolini agenda. trump and biden at mar-a-lago, this is the same thing as if you had invited mussolini for a weekend getaway in the 1930s. let's be clear, not giving ukraine aid is a choice. you can call it isolationism but it is a choice to cut these people off and allow vladimir putin to run roughshod over them when that serves no other interest other than the kind of continued momentum behind this strongman autocracy in the world, which the republican party seems to hold in such high esteem now. so, we have to recognize it is a choice to cut the cord on ukraine in this manner and what it is going to do is put wind in the sales of not just vladimir putin but this brand of autocracy we see gaining

this type is a viktor orban who wants to literally do what viktor orban did, come back into office after having lost re-election, and then rewrite the constitution with the help of his project 2025 friends. they already have the playbook down. they want to follow viktor orban's model, change things about our laws and our constitution and judiciary so he'll never lose again. he wants to do that because he's afraid of going to prison and because he's a child and because he's a narcissist, and because he can't admit he lost an election. people are willing to let him do it. i wonder if there's an analog for that anywhere in our history. >> the sad thing is there really isn't, joy. and tom, you know, can we think of a major party nominee who has ever talked this way about being a dictator for a day? or pitting the police and the u.s. armed forces against this guy's political enemies or suspending the constitution? this is way off anything we have seen in american history. and tom, you were talking about the tv show he was on for over a decade, which a lot of people saw, for a lot of time, tha

what do you think of trump meeting with viktor orban. he is the dictator. is that too strong a word of hungary. i mean he's a secretarian. >> he's as close as it gets in the western world. >> he was elected, but so was hitler, right? >> and he seems to be elected over and over and over again. yes. but i think actually most americans know nothing about viktor orban, so it probably has no impact on his electability. >> and i would agree with that. you're right. >> so i that's true. yeah. >> but can we educate them a little? yes. you're we are on a country. we're on cnn now. yeah come on. >> so yeah. >> who is viktor orban? >> there's a country. it's called hungary. you may have heard of it. it's part of my heritage. yeah. >> it's hungarian, it's amazing. >> and it is on eastern europe. and it became a part of the european union. but it is definitely the most difficult member of the european union. yeah. >> you used to be part of the soviet bloc. was part of the group with with east germany and poland and czechoslovakia and allies with hitler in world war two.

. >> there's nobody better, smarter, or better than viktor orban, he's fantastic. does a good job. noncontroversial, because he said this is the way it's going to be. he's the boss. he's a greater leader. fantastic leader in europe and

. >> there's nobody that is better, smarter, or a better leader than viktor orban. he's fantastic. he does a great job.

. >> there's nobody that's better, smarter or -- than viktor orban. as you know, the prime minister of hungary. he does a great job. he's a noncontroversial figure.

prime minister viktor orban.heard him speak one time in his like progressivism, we've already done that. we did that under. the communists, he said when he was in college, even things that they were learning like were very similar to critical race theory. so, you know, i can't tell you everything, but if you read the book, you will see so many parallels with marxism, communism, with what progressivism i always do because it's not progressive. it's retrogressive, it's destructive to a society by cutting children's body parts off. who would have thought we were allowing, you know, millions and, millions and millions of people into our country. and we don't know who they are. i mean, this this stuff is nonsense. the way that our doj been set against people who agree with the biden administration this is communism. i was really struck by the show trial that happened in hungary and in other soviet. i go to the house of terror in hungary. if you haven't been there because that was the headquarters of, both the nazis an

. >> there is nobody that's better, smarter, or a better leader than viktor orban. he's fantastic. [ applause ] as you know, the prime minister of hungary. does a great job. he is a non-controversial figure. he says, "this is the way it's going to be," and that's the end of it, right?

we should also note a number of press or organization press freedom organizations have blasted viktor orban's cracked down on the media. of course, we saw at turning the trump administration here, the us it sounds like another parallel >> so what's important about orban's crack down on the media and why it's why it's an example for for the minority of the republican party who, who, who, who want a more authoritarian system is that it wasn't i'm done with censorship. so orban didn't censor people instead he used tactics. he used business pressure on advertisers who advertise in independent media. he would say, you really want to place that advertisement because you might lose your government contract if you do. >> he used he cuts he cut funding for all kinds of advertising that the government used to do. in other words, he put business pressure on media in order to put it out of business and eventually over a period of time, he succeeded. and that's something that's never been tried in the united states, certainly not with the federal government seeking to put media out of business on purpose.

. >> them viktor orban said you told him you wanted to cut funding for ukraine as soon as you get there, words to that effect. >> yeah. >> is he correct? is that the plan. >> first of all, he is a fantastic guy, and he's taken in no illegal immigrants, he takes in -- he runs his country very tough and a lot of people don't like it but he runs it very tough and it does very well and there's no crime. what i told him is europe is spending a tiny fraction of what we're spending and the european nations, they should be paying the same. their economies are approximately the same size if you add them all up, it's close to ours and they're in a lot more danger than we are. we have a thing called an ocean between us, right, and they don't. so, they're spending -- they have $100 billion, probably more than that less spending on ukraine than we do. they should be spending money. i had the same thing with nato. they weren't spending on nato. i said you got to spend on nato and they did once i said it. i said i won't protect you. i would not protect you if

maloney, who in this competition for ukrainianness, then viktor orban he can no longer, you know, sayrutal things, that's why his rhetoric is careful now, but fizo, he needs to have his own president, this is mr. pellegrini, he needs to assert his stronger power in the country, and he, you know, feeds his electorate with such a pro-russian delusion, that's why... this is the reality, listen, i 'll ask you a simple question now, it popped into my head, for example, one of the ukrainians has 40 thousand hryvnias, that is, about 100 euros, and there is a choice, and he addresses you, this ukrainian, the family of a ukrainian, go to poland, the czech republic , slovakia or hungary, where he can feel at home, he is not a refugee, he wants to go there for a week to... i don't know, to rest , he has a child there, a wife, and he is going, where would he rather go? look, this here is a very simple solution, this is poland and the czech republic, of course, that is, these nations, uh, well, you know , that is, for me it is actually hungary, departure, yes, yes, but, well, here, look, everythin

here, and specifically to this meeting, yes, that is, it is an election, an election campaign, viktor orbánection campaign of donald trump, he has done it before, donald trump has done, participated in the election campaign of viktor orbán in 2022 , he also wrote letters in support of orbán, that's why, for example, a few moments like that, you know, it's not... all political moments, but it's like that, it's trump politics, yes , that is, banon, who is again on the trump team, yes, with which trump came to power in the 16th year, then banon seemed to leave, in fact , but he didn't leave, he called orbán a trump before trump, yes, and they are really similar, that is , viktor orbán is such a role model for these trumpists, who now, considering all the circumstances, are scho.

have got the world on fire. >> senator, just be very clear, though, he is aligning himself with viktor orban. >> who is a member of nato who voted to let sweden in. >> reluctantly. >> orban is not on the ballot. you have to vote between trump and biden, biden has screwed the world up everywhere you can. broken borders and the world is on fire, if he's back and if he's with it and energetic, get in a room with donald trump and debate. take questions from people like yourself rather than reading a teleprompter if there's ever an election in the history of america that deserved a debate between the two candidates it's this election. trump just told me the campaign just told me, any time anywhere, let's debate. >> very quickly, just one more point before we move on to my very last question. trump has said to putin that he would welcome him invading a nato country, senator, if they didn't pay their bills. should people not hear that rhetoric and feel as though he is potentially aligning himself with the type of leadership that orban has shown? >> that was in reference to nato paying their fair sh

and do you remember how viktor orbán constantly talks about the fact that, oh, there are people sittingussels who want to destroy hungarian democracy and for some reason are clinging to it. whatever different reasons they invent for not giving money, no to allow his country to develop, in brussels they are simply talking about the fact that laws are being broken in hungary, and they are being broken like this, and they are being broken in the end, as we can see, and thousands of people, thousands of hungarians, are protesting because they see this , and they don't like it, well, i'll keep an eye on it, you 'll be the first to know the details and news about what 's going on there, now... we're crossing, flying across the atlantic ocean to the united states of america. us president joe biden does not betray himself. he again called putin a word which fully corresponds to the kremlin dictator. this time he called him a butcher. during a pre-election meeting with supporters in the state of north carolina, the current owner of the white house spoke about the initiative to increase the incom

viktor orban. anyone ever hear of him?r orban, and he's the head of hungary, and he runs a tough -- let me tell you, he runs it properly. he runs it strong. >> twice there, of course, hungary, not turkey, folks. hi, again, it's 5:00 in new york. that was, 40s, the disgraced twice impeached ex-president donald trump who has made no secret of his affinitiy for, dare we say obsession, with the world's autocrats and dictators and dangerous club of what he says admiringly are strong men, leaders who are so strong. trump is desperate to elbow his way into that group. it's a that includes vladimir putin, xi jinping, kim jong-un to name a few. now one of the members of the dictators club is right here on american soil for an epic hangout with america's wannabe dictator. the autocrat in question is hungary's prime minister, viktor orban. he has been called, quote, the ultimate 21st century dictator, a title he earned by, quote, chipping away at his country's democratic systems through policies that are hostile to lgbtq people and i

this past weekend, donald trump hosted hungary's prime minister viktor orbÁn at mar-a-lago. i spoke yesterday with hungarian green activist. but first, let's go to president trump praising orbÁn at mar-a-lago. trumka there is nobody better, smarter than the door bond. he is fantastic. he does a great job. he is not a controversial leader. he says this is the way it is going to be. get lost. amy: to talk more, we spoke tuesday with gabor scheiring, visiting fellow at the center for european studies at harvard university and assistant professor at georgetown university in qatar. green party member of parliament in hungary from 2010-2014. his new piece "i watched , hungary's democracy dissolve into authoritarianism as a member of parliament -- and i see troubling parallels in trumpism and its appeal to workers." i asked him to elaborate on what happened in hungary and the parallels he sees here in the united states. >> as the title suggests, there are quite a few parallels between the united states and hungary. what happened in hungary is basically now the country is the first

donald trump talked about that meeting on cnbc earlier. >> i just had viktor orban, the man from hungary, he was at my place in florida. very friendly, but i have respect for him. he made a statement. i thought it was a wonderful statement. he said, we will solve the problems of the world of donald trump comes back. he said russia was afraid of him, taught china was afraid of him, we had no problems whatsoever under trump. >> remember, viktor orban is a far right european leader who has kept very close ties with russia throughout its war against ukraine. with that, let's get some smarter with the help of our panel tonight. susan glasser is here, staff writer for the new yorker, she co-authored the book the divider, trump and the white house, 2017 to 2021. sam snyder joins us, a veteran journalist and white house editor for politico and senior political analyst matthew dowd, a former george w. bush strategist and founder of country over party. susan your first thought, we are shifting into general election mode. this is donald trump's chance to expand his base, bring in the moderates, but

and of course, that meeting the former president had with viktor orban. is this a reset moment for the president? >> well, eric, i can tell you that last night was certainly the most energized that i have seen. white house officials, campaign officials and supporters of the president. i think for many of his supporters, they saw a performance from president biden that they had badly wanted to see. they saw clarity and vigor and energy, and they are very much hoping that the president will take that onto the road. we obviously just saw the kickoff of his post state of the union tour here in the suburbs of philadelphia, and we know that in the coming days, he is going to be traveling to other important battleground states like new hampshire, georgia, michigan and wisconsin. you know, last night, as political as the president's remarks were, we never heard the president actually referring to his predecessor, donald trump, by name. that rule obviously has gone out the window. we saw, in fact, some of the most harshest and starkest critic of donald trump, from

chiefly, you have got a viktor orban of hungary, who we know has remained close to vladimir putin overll—scale invasion dashing over the past two years. we have seen how he can hold things up and make them complicated. in december, the historic decision was taken to start talks so ukraine could actuallyjoin the european union. there is no such big decision today, but they managed to work around it with a viktor orban of hungary. i'm react to this proposal put forward. also slightly tricky, you have countries like malta and ireland and austria, traditionally not militarily aligned to anyone, so that makes things quite complicated in terms of taking these profits of frozen russian assets and converting it into military capabilities, so i think it is something to watch out for, but there is also a changing mood in europe at the moment, notably present macron of france has been saying in the past few weeks that he cannot rule out sending western trips to ukraine to take part in the fight against russia. that initially seem to alarm some of his allies, but he has been saying this time and a

remember on friday trump posted hungarian mind -- prime minister viktor orban at mar-a-lago. >> we kept in touch, nobody that is better or smarter. he is fantastic. >> he can say this is how it will be and people do it? that is great. the guy trump is praising is the same person who dismantled democracy in hungary which by the well hasn't had a free and fair elections since 2010. a guy who created his own court system with crackdown on the freedom of the press openly admitting that reshaping the media helps him maintain his power who has left no space for challenge, that's how dictators keep control so it is pretty easy to appear dominant when you make the rules in your favor. here is the thing. they are not tough, they are desperate and paranoid and insecure.no they are in fact weak and so is donald trump. we see that in his claims of immunity. we even see it in something as petty as a tack -- an attack on jimmy kimmel during the award show. at the end of the day the point of this is not to psychoanalyze donald trump, it is about understanding how his own weakness and desperation to ho

. >> nobody is a better leader than viktor orban. >> all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york. it is election night in america. did you know that? and president biden just clinched his party's nomination. joe biden is indeed official. the presumptive nominee. within just a few minutes of polls closing in georgia, the president secured enough votes to cross the threshold for his party's nomination. it has been apparent since nikki haley dropped her bid that 2024 would be a rematch between donald trump and joe biden. but tonight, that is expected to become all but official when both candidates cross the delegate threshold set by their respective parties. for the republican nomination, donald trump needs 1215 delegates. he is close. should make that number later tonight. steve kornacki is at the big board with the latest. tell me, where are we? the delegate map? >> the last couple of minutes the polls closed in mississippi. joe biden, i can show you here, has no opponent on the ballot in mississippi so he has been declared the winner in mississippi. there are 35 delegates at

a hero's welcome. >> there's nobody that's better, smarter, or a better leader than viktor orban.ime minister of hungary. and a great guy. he's a noncontroversial figure because he said that's the way it's going to be, and that's the end of it. he's the boss. a great leader. >> trump's embrace or maybe jealousy of dictitators is brought up once again by jim sciutto who talked to former advisers including john kelly and former national security adviser john bolton. multiple -- for multiple former advisers told sciutto that to trump, orban is fantastic. shejinping is fantastic, and kim jong-un is an okay guy. trump even had favorable words for adolf hitler saying he, quote, did some good things like rebuilding the economy. joining me now is jim sciutto, cnn anchor and national security analyst and author of "the return of great powers, russia, china, and the next world war" which comes out tomorrow. congratulations on the book. welcome to the other side of the aisle from cnn. thank you for joining us. all of that seems pretty shocking. what did general kelly and others say was their

viktor orban is the most resistant nato leader of the bunch.hat is in it for these guys to prop up vladimir putin? >> they want to create an illiberal international, as contradictory as that may sound for nationalists. is functioning as the go- between between trump, and putin. trump fetishize his strength. he sees democracy as this inherently week. he would like to cut deals with putin, extricate the united states from nato, have putin establish a sphere of influence. hungary would benefit from this, as well. they actually have designs on the carpathian mountains in ukrainian territory. so, it would be a win-win situation for all three leaders. >> i appreciate the work you have done to let us all know about this. don't give away your democracy. jacob heilbrunn is the author of "america last: the right's century-long romance with foreign dictators". thank you for your time tonight. just to note that tomorrow morning on my own show, i will be interviewing evgenia, a human rights activist, and the wife of the political prisoner who i last intervi

trump has long admired viktor orban for the way he operates in his country. n is sort of a celebrity figure on the far right, the most popular european leader on the far right in this country. he's skeptical of multilateral institutions. he's critical of the eu of which hungary is a member, he's critical of nato of which hungary is a member. trump looks at orban and sees some of the authoritarian governing style he would like to have if he could do it in the american system. don't take my word for it. here's how trump has talked about orban in the past. >> a great leader in europe, viktor orban, he's the prime minister of hungary, he's a very great leader. very strong man. some people don't like him because he's too strong. it's nice to have a strong man running your country, probably one of the strongest leaders anywhere in the world. he's the head of hungary, and he runs it properly, he runs it strong. >> reporter: one other bit of context about the relationship, orban has done something unusual for a foreign leader, endorsed donald trump saying america need

the recent meeting between trump and the prime minister of hungary, viktor orban, was called a rallyne was one of the key topics, and in the very first interview that viktor orban gave after this meeting in maralaga, the hungarian prime minister spoke and... it was probably, first of all, interesting to hear zelensky in kiev about the specifics of trump’s plan for peacekeeping in ukraine, there is probably nothing new here, but this is the first time it has been said so bluntly, so specifically and so ruthless for representatives of the kiev regime, but orban said that trump would simply stop giving money to ukraine. billion a month were allocated, the most important time when a billion or 2 each, the problem for the american department of defense here is the colossal cash gap that occurred due to the fact that with unprecedented enthusiasm they sent military equipment to kiev, not too consistent with the dynamics of replenishment of this technology and everything led to the fact that now there are 10 billion dollars that were literally wasted... the us department of defense will nee

there are such people who called the recent meeting between trump and hungarian prime minister viktor orbanonal; ukraine was one of the key topics; in the very first interview that viktor orban gave after this meeting in maralaga, the hungarian prime minister probably said this it was first of all interesting to hear zelensky in kiev, but in specifics. trump's peacekeeping plan ukraine, there is probably nothing new here, but for the first time it was said so directly, so specifically and so ruthlessly for representatives of the kiev regime, but orban said that trump will simply stop giving money to ukraine, especially since he for this, at one time he already went through the procedure of one impeachment, and twice in one. as is known, the shell does not hit the funnel. if donald trump becomes president again, he will not want to finance the security of europeans and will not support the united states allocating money to ukraine to conduct war. if america doesn't give money, the europeans won't be able to finance this war alone, then the war will end. the pentagon for ukraine is now on a s

amna: hungarian prime minister viktor orban is meeting with former president donald trump today afterisit to washington yesterday where he met with no one from the biden administration. orban delayed both european aid to ukraine and sweden's bid to join nato. nick schifrin examines orban's relationship with global conservatives, and why he has resisted some of the biden administration's top priorities in europe. [applause] nick: from turkey to texas. >> my country, hungary, is the lone star state of europe. [applause] nick: from moscow to mar-a-lago. >> there is a great man, great leader in europe, viktor orban. nick: a gadfly to what he calls globalists. >> there is ukraine fatigue, for sure. nick: cherished by conservatives. >> he thinks families are more important than banks. he believes countries need borders. >> they slander me and my country as they hate you and slander you and america you stand for. we don't have same-sex marriage. nick: this week, viktor orban visited his american supporters. he met no biden administration officials. today's meeting with former president donal

. >> viktor orban. anyone ever hear of him?e is the leader of turkey. >> nikki haley -- nikki haley is in charge of security. about that? >> did you actually have a one- on-one with comey then? >> not that i remember. >> they are truly foreign languages. nobody speaks in. >> saudi russia. >> i have a really good memory. >> your next wife was a woman by the name of >> that is ray. >> you recall what years you are married? >> it is up here and called memory and other things. >> i don't remember that. >> and putin has so little respect for obama that he is starting to throw around the nuclear term. >> we have to win in november or we will not have pennsylvania. the name. >> i talked to putin a lot. >> i don't remember that. i saw that this morning. >> a good memory and all that stuff. a great memory. >> the 20 years they were fighting isis, i defeated isis in four weeks. >> and we did with obama -- we won an election that everyone so cannot be won. >> you are going to be there first. i know my people are going to say, all right, t

but i do want to share with you, do what donald trump posted on social media last night of viktor orban praising and we have a quote here of what orban said. he said quote he says the following. first, he will not give a single penny for the ressa, the rosseau ukrainian war. that's why the war will end, because it's obvious that ukraine cannot stand on its own two feet. now, we did also receive rihanna readout from the trump campaign about some of what they discussed. they said that it was mainly about issues important to hungry as well as the us. and again immigration being a key focus of that. and of course, as we see in this video the war in ukraine as well. but what i want to point out here that i think is really important is that donald trump has a history of praising or ban, but also other far-right authoritarian leaders on the trail. and when it comes to some of these issues about his stance on the war in ukraine, the warrant, israel as well as immigration. it's kinda giving you a preview of what we could expect from donald trump if he were elected and took over the white house a

and according to hungarian prime minister viktor orban who just met with donald trump last week, the umptive republican presidential nominee told orban he will not give a penny to help ukraine. orban concluded therefore the war will end because it is obvious that ukraine cannot stand on its own feet. joining me now is ben rhodes, former deputy national security advisor for the obama white house. ben, thanks for being here with me this evening. there was a lot of consternation leading up to this meeting that orhp ban would basically be an interlockter for putin and it feels like that's exactly what happened. how do you see that sort of fallout from that meeting last week? >> it's not subtle at all, alex. i don't usually plug things but i wrote a book a couple years ago which is both a sense of their own domestic politic and the kind of leaders they want to be at home and therefore the kind of world they want to live in. putin is at the far end of the authoritarian spectrum. he's already transitioned this country into what was trying to be a democracy into a one man dictatorship. orban

ukraine bill up for a vote shortly after we fund the government. >> if we say no to the x president viktor orbantrump talking about explicitly orban as the model. he is the boss and what he says goes. what do you think of that? >> i think sometimes we get a little lecture about the virtues of democracy and assume everyone is all in on the project. i believe there's an actual conversation in the country whether democracy is actually working for regular people or if it's permanently captured by elites to make money for billionaires and corporations. i want my party to spend less time lecturing people about democracy and laughing off the praise that donald trump is praising viktor orban. and in the meantime big plans to transfer power from the elites to regular people as a means of showing democracy can work for them. i don't think we should assume the people in this country will be in for democracy for the next 50 years if it continues to consolidate wealth and power in the hands of the elites. we better be wise to