. >> are small, secretary vilsack has taken leadership on this. we are going to meet for the first time next week and we have not yet met as a total group and we have do map out our strategy. if you look at the legislative history, it's not real specific on us. but it requires a match and we can't spend money without a match. so i think the implication is that we should deal with the gaps and the knowledge that we don't know. and i'm sensitive to your point because i have always taught about the asteroids, and the things that can destroy us in some way. so i would be prone to many long-term things. but i think that we can partner with the private sector and with the university community. the fact that we have to match it means that we need their help as well and i hope that that can come and i appreciate your comments. >> over to the other side. >> student here. my question regards the intersection between actor auteur policies and business policies. there's a lot of criticism that the agriculture industry is moving towards higher consolidation an

i have something i'm very proud of, i was able to question tom vilsack at a conference i was at a couple years ago, i said you allowed gmo alphafa. he says we all have to get along, we -- i have two sons, and i love them both equally, which is organic and industrial. >> i said with all due respect, one of your sons is a bully, and he said we can all, you know, we can get along and live together, we just need to work it out. >> i said gmos can contaminate organic but organic can't contaminate gmos. but i know a person that i met with from a seed company that met with mon tanto like 156 years ago. they were promoting coexistence. they say there is no such thing, you will control your way into contaminating every field, and the guy smiled and said i know. he told me that story and it was totally private, not recorded, and i just thought oh, man. that is their strategy, promote this false ideal of coexistence that anyone but a moron would know is unnatural and impossible to do, and gradually have gmo creep, and then it's game over. very dangerous. coexistence, that whole idea should be compl

i have something i'm very proud of, i was able to question tom vilsack at a conference i was at a couple years ago, i said you allowed gmo alphafa. he says we all have to get along, we -- i have two sons, and i love them both equally, which is organic and industrial. >> i said with all due respect, one of your sons is a bully, and he said we can all, you know, we can get along and live together, we just need to work it out. >> i said gmos can contaminate organic but organic can't contaminate gmos. but i know a person that i met with from a seed company that met with mon tanto like 156 years ago. they were promoting coexistence. they say there is no such thing, you will control your way into contaminating every field, and the guy smiled and said i know. he told me that story and it was totally private, not recorded, and i just thought oh, man. that is their strategy, promote this false ideal of coexistence that anyone but a moron would know is unnatural and impossible to do, and gradually have gmo creep, and then it's game over. very dangerous. coexistence, that whole idea should be compl

i was able to question tom vilsack at a conference i was at a couple years ago. so i said, you've allowed gmo alfalfa, it's a perennial, they didn't used to spray it, and now you know, it can contaminate non-gmo how can you justify your actions? he says well we all have to get along. we have -- i have two sons. i love them both equally. which is organic and industrial. and so i said with all due respect, sir, one of your sons is a bully and he goes oh! and then he said, he said, we can all -- he said we can get along. we can live together. we just need to get in a room and work it out. i said gmos can contaminate organic. organic can't contaminate gmos. and he was like what? but i think that -- but i know a person that met with from a seed company that met with monsanto many, you know like 15 years ago, when this was starting. tand they were promoting coexistence. and he said there really is no such thing as coexistence they'll just contaminate your way into every field. and he said the guy looked at him and smiled and said, i know. now he told me that story and