remember what vin gupta says.ore prone to getting ill because of coronavirus. massive clouds of hazy smoke have darkened the skies to an orange glow over much of the west coast sky this week. governors of the hardest hit states are sounding the alarm. the fires are rampid. they are the new normal unless we act soon. >> you know why the grass becomes drier when the heat goes up and even wind goes up. that's because our climate is changing. so we have to take reasonable approaches to deal with that. when i try to think about this, we talk about this as a wild fire. i think we have to start thinking of them as climate fires. they're climate fires because that's what creates the conditions that makes them so explosive. >> here's california's governor gavin newsome. >> there is a sustainable problem. that is climate change. it is a climate emergency. this is what all the experts have been saying for decades. climate change is here. it's it's omipresent. if you don't believe in climate change, walk in our shoes. >> join

vin gupta. he's an e.r. doc specializing in exactly these kinds of illnesses.ssor with the university of washington department of health metrics sciences. doctor, i won't give a long preamble. i'm curious as given your life's work, your work with this virus, what did you make of the coronavirus portion of what the president, the leader of our country, had to say tonight? >> brian, good to see you. so there's three categories i'd like to talk about all related to coronavirus. number one is the discussion on health care that the president and vice president had. let's be clear. the president made a claim that 100 million people in the united states don't have a diagnosed or underdiagnosed pre-existing condition. that is false. if he wad s at the bedside cari for individuals -- actually caring for patients, remember what it was like to care for patients, this would know pre-existing illnesses are rampant throughout the country. up to 129 million americans have a pre-existing condition. why does that matter, brian? the president and his surrogates pushed forward th

. >> vin gupta, we have been talking about this for months. i don't buy the argument. donald trump, he hasn't invented later and imposed about something he did earlier. you are a doctor. doctors have to deal with this all of the time. you can't be dishonest with your patients about their condition in the hopes that it could be upsetting to them? >> first i would say the moving story that maria mentioned about losing a family member and what that is like. that is the story of 200,000 families right now who lost their loved ones. to your point, much of those lives were preventible. the loss of life was preventible. 60% to 70% based on models. when i hear and when the president hears that the virus from china is potentially airborne. even if he wants to not speak in dramatic terms, fine. but readiness is key. making sure all of your health systems are doing table to be exercises and that the pentagon and cdc are looking to the national stockpile to make sure that n95 masks are there. you hear airborne and if you have experts around you, you think papers, a fancy ppe and n

vin gupta. he's an e.r. specializing in these kinds of illnesses, also an affiliate assistant professor with the university of washington department of health metrics sciences so, doctor, people are exasperated. we're hearing and seeing this every day with our public health institutions under fire. and now that we have reason to question what comes out of the cdc, tell us, please, who can we trust? >> so, dr. fauci -- good evening, brian what dr. fauci said is correct, and let's be clear here. the fda has been politicized in the past when it comes to a vaccine and whether it's effective and safe, i have confidence that the vaccine will be deemed safe and effective by their definitions by an independent advisory committee. one will be convened on october 22nd, so i think it's important for the american public, for all your viewers to know that there will be a process of independent experts that will be convened. now, here's the important thing, brian. what's effective what's the goalpost that we have to -- wh

vin gupta from the university of washington medical center and an msnbc medical contributor.nks for being with us i wanted to ask you about some of the comments the president made last night on abc, saying that he up-played the covid threat when he was asked about masks. but certainly playing it down when he talked to bob woodward or explaining that he had played it down. let's watch. >> the previous administration would have taken perhaps years to have a vaccine because of the fda and all the approvals and we're within weeks of getting it, you know, could be three weeks, four weeks. >> so he said it could be three weeks or four weeks, but today we have the cdc director redfield telling congress, first of all, that it would be april before we'll actually have it rolled out we may have the vaccine, it will be fully tested, but it will be april before it's rolled out what about the disconnect people people are going to get a false impression do you think that this is politics, trying from the white house perspective, trying to promote the vaccine before it's ready to be distrib

vin gupta. thank you for being here tonight. i want to play a clip from a town hall that donald trump did tonight. he did a town hall with abc. and here he is actually being asked by a voter whether or not it's his responsibility to protect the american people. here it is >> if you believe that it's the president's responsibility to protect america, why would you downplay a pandemic that is known to disproportionately harm low-income families and minority communities. >> yeah. well, i didn't downplay it i actually in many ways i upplayed it in terms of action. >> you did not -- >> what i did was with china i put a ban on, with europe i put a ban on, and we would have lost thousands of more people had i not put the ban on so that was called action. not with the mouth but an actual fact we did a very, very good job when we put that ban on. whether you call it talent or luck, it was very important. so we saved a lot of lives when we did that. >> dr. gupta, thank you so much for being here there's a

vin gupta. apology eggs, dr. basic science here, but the president of the united states appears to be making fun or of or saying it's less important for some to wear masks, made fun of joe biden wearing masks because he was far enough away from people. this, to me, appears to be a massive disservice to the american people where we're going to have 200,000 deaths, i believe, by the end of this week and the death toll keeps counting masks save lives, don't they >> good morning, mika, and thanks for the opportunity first of all, yes, 100%. this is what we know now we have defenive proof of what the president knew on february 27th, which is, indeed, covid-19 is airborne whether you have a -- that should trigger not only -- let me make sure every american has access to a mask, but one that is well fitting and high quality. especially with smog on the west coast, that well fitting high quality piece has never been more important because people are scared the reality is in people are in lockdown mode. that is one. number

vin gupta, john heilemann and claire mccaskill are still here dr., e we talk about the health side of this. but i know the political failures and the failures of our leaders have in some ways take the greatest toll on doctors and nurses on the front lines. what do you feel when you hear the president admit iting that one, he knew how dangerous it was back in january, february and that by march, he confesses to down playing it intentionally? >> good afternoon, nicole. the first thought here is that the 75% of americans who lost their lives because the president didn't take this seriously would be alive today that if he'd shut down and taken this virus seriously back in the beginning of march as experts were telling him to do, stop talking about shenanigans like hydroxychloroquine, not modeling good behavior in mask, some 75% of the americans who lost their lives would be alive today, so that's what i think. about i think about 1,000 health care workers who lost their lives on the front lines with me it's unacceptable to have a leader who's trying to

vin gupta, a global health policy expert and professor at the university of washington medical center msnbc medical contributor. and dr. gupta, i want to get your fact check reaction to what we just heard donald trump say about it really just affects elderly people, people with heart problems, other problems, young people don't have anything to worry about. >> thanks, lawrence, for the opportunity. you know, 200,000 people died, and what we think is that 70% of their lives could have been you could have actually had n-95 masks, lawrence, people getting the masks they deserve. not just being told to put a cloth mask in front of their face but well fit masks that they deserve, that he had the ability to produce at scale if he had planned ahead. just like he knew february 7th from the woodward tapes this disease was airborne, if we had enough of these we wouldn't have lost 145,000 lives at least. that's number two. so the fact check here we can continue on. what about air pollution, what does that mean for me with a respect to covid? we don't hear the surgeon general. we don't hear anybo

vin gupta. dr. gupta, always a pleasure to have you on. these rally-goers, they're repeating what the president told the public about the virus back in march. but the president had some understanding of just how dangerous covid-19 is, give us a sense of the consequences of misleading the american public when you hear the public speak the way they did in that sound bite? >> you know, ayman, good to see you and i'm really glad you framed the discussion this way. if the president knew -- if the president knew that a virus potentially of pandemic potential in early february was airborne transmitted, that means one of several things, ayman. number one, he should have clear, consistent messaging to the american people. it's role as protector in chief, as commander in chief, so what he should have done were to make sure americans were protecting themselves. one, he should have been the right messenger and given the appropriate information. he should convene leaders to see what's in the strategic national stockpile, not be surprised by it eight we

vin gupta. he's an e.r. doc specializing in these types of illnesses. also an affiliate assistant professor with the university of washington department of health metrics sciences. dr. gupta, i made notes today. the president said the u.s. has done very well, and he said, quote, we're rounding the corner. we're rounding the final turn. then he changed to past tense. we have rounded the final turn. how is that corner lookin' from where you work? >> i can't see that corner, brian. just in the last 24 hours, 1,300 deaths were reported. 36,000 cases, brian, were reported. that's more than all of western or continental europe for that matter. so we're very much in the thick of this pandemic, brian, and i think it's important for all of your viewers, for the american people to remember that, that we're entering a very dangerous phase here, and regardless of any premature celebrations or declarations of victory, we all have to continue to do the right thing. mask, distance, and hopefully just only travel, only go out when you need to. >> so judging by the crow

vin gupta. dr. gupta, let's start with the timeline on this vaccine. you have dr. fauci, the w.h.o., and countless experts saying it won't be here before the election but others say it will. how do you reconcile that? >> what i would say is we don't know. there's a lot of uncertainty. what's been encouragement is the pronouncement from the farm sue call companies saying they will not put something up for approval if they are not confident in the science. it's unprecedented and it great that they're going to stand by what they put in front of the fda and not bend to pressure. the vaccine chief has also said he would resign before he were to put anything in front of the fda for approval certainly before americans get inoculated with a vaccine. that's encouraging. we think phase three trials are not going to end n the end of the year. so this notion that preelection there's going to be a mass distribution of vaccines is not realistic. >> let's talk about why that timeline is important. of course everyone understands the urgency around a vaccine but as dr. gupta just l

was around the time president trump publicly resisted it i want to bring in medical correspondent vin guptathis one was one that just hit hard because it was like, my goodness, the message this could have sent the country, not just in sending the actually masks, but the government sending you the masks. dr. gupta, do you think you can quantify how many lives this lost >> chuck, you nailed it with that comment i think it's the message it sends that's the lost opportunity. in terms of quantification, everyone is concerned with models there's critical evidence that 70% of the lives could have been saved that have since been lost since we had an early shutdown two months earlier lives would have been saved. if we added masks on top -- this is what i can tell you if we adopted universal masking right now, something the president 48 hours ago continues to make fun of, questions the efficacy of, if we adopted that right now, we could potentially save up to 42,000 lives by des 1. so this is serious this isn't going away. and on the west coast at least, chuck, we're talking not just about masks, but

vin gupta, a global health policy expert and professor at the university of washington medical center msnbc medical contributor. dr. gupta, i want to get your fact check reaction to what we just heard president trump say about it really just affects elderly people, people with heart problems, other problems, young people don't have anything to worry about. >> thanks, lawrence, for the opportunity. you know, 200,000 people died, and what we think is that 70% of their lives could have been saved if president trump and his administration had taken appropriate actions early. what does that mean, lawrence? that means in early march, two weeks earlier, shutting down the country so we could start reopening the economy more quickly. we could have schools reopen now in the fall instead of doing what we're doing now, which nobody likes. we could have actually had n95 masks, people getting the masks they deserve, not just being told to put a cloth mask in front of their face, but well-fit masks that they deserve. that he had the ability to produce at scale if he had planned ahead. just like he k

. >> let's bring there vin gupta from the university of washington medical center. dr.d to see you. before we even get into that sound from the ozarks, i want to ask you to set the stage for us, where are we right now in our fight against this virus? >> we're in a dangerous place. by the way congratulations on the show. great to be here. we're in a really dangerous place. we're at a high baseline. entering a season where respiratory viruses like to transmit themselves, whether it is flu or covid. viruses like colder, drier air. we have students going back to school and corporations opening up. this is a very dangerous time. so that is a key here. >> i want to ask you if you are someone, you saw the bikers there, i don't think they are alone who say i made it to september, i haven't gotten sick, why am going to get sick now, why should i be extra careful now? how do you go back to emphasizing that personal responsibility when people feel like they've made it through the summer without encountering this virus? >> that is a great question. i would say a few things. one, a

vin gupta, thank you for coming on and sharing your expertise with us. >> thank you, chuck. >>> up nextew revelati about georgia rents voting twice in that state's primary less than a week after president trump encouraged his voters to do just that. we'll be right back. voters to do just atth we'll be right back. introducing the future of fitness. it's every class you can imagine, live. welcome back to the mirror. you've got this john. and on demand. it's boxing... cardio... yoga... and more. it's an interactive, goal crushing...whole family...whole body fitness machine. it's so cool! the future of fitness is at home. the mirror. >>> welcome back. georgia's secretary of state announced this morning 1,000 voters voted twice in the state's primary. 1,000 first kasten an absentee ballot, then showing up in person to vote again. this was apparently out of the 135,000 people that attempted to do this, 1,000 may have done this. this after president trump urges supporters to do just that, vote by mail, then to seemingly test the election system by voting at the polls as well. he says those who

vin gupta. >> i know this is impossible for donald trump to do, but let's try to take this out of the realm of politics, just for a minute. i know he can't do that. but we have to do that. for some time doctors have been warning, you've been warning, epidemiologists have been warning, dr. fauci has been warning about the fall and the dangers of what could happen in the fall when the flu season collides with the coronavirus. and you have donald trump still going around pushing -- you know, actually getting the government to push treatments that end up being in effective or certainly not tested. now we have this bizarre announcement that states are being told to get ready to distribute a vaccine by early november. this would be a vaccine, of course, that's not going through all the proper stages. that won't be adequately tested. and i seriously, i wonder what doctors are going to recommend to their patients that even if they're big proponents of vaccines that they can promote this vaccine that donald trump is talking about rushing to market. >> you're talking a time line less than eight

vin gupta. remember at the beginning of this, mike pence went out and said, we're just like italy, as we got worse and worse, we were more like brazil, as things got worse and worse, there wasn't anybody left doing as badly as we were. where are we now on the world stage? >> good afternoon, nicolle, good to see you. where we are right now is concerning for children at adolescents, most notably as we talk about school reopenings. the american association of pediatrics actually published yesterday and your viewers can find their analysis in "the new york times," between the end of may and now recently in august, august 20th, what we saw was that the rates of not only cases but hospitalizations and deaths among children and adolescents was rising disproimportance nattily, much higher than for the general public. this is hospitalization and deaths, nicolle. that's important to say, to really emphasize here, bau dr. scott atlas and others that have the president's ear are claiming, without any truth

vin gupta.d business day where there's been some language change on the cdc website. one, what is the truth, and two, do you still have confidence in the information posted on the c dlrx c website? >> the answer to the first question, good to see you, is no. and the answer to the second question was no, they were correct by stating that covid-19 is likely airborne driven. my colleagues and i have been outraged by this whole thing ever since this happened this morning. you know why, nicolle, because i get asked all the time from teachers, from parents, concerned about their health or their grandparents' health, what do we do with smog and covid-19? and the answer, nicolle, here, and this is why the cdc is massaging their messaging to accompany and provide coffer for the existing failure and reality of the response to covid-19. they don't have enough of these guys, nicolle. n-95 masks. it should not be hard for us to scale n-95 mask production. it shouldn't be hard, a dollar a pop. we should be ab