vin weber is a former republican congressman from minnesota and also an adviser to jebbish bush.ngress, you established a relationship as a stalwart republican. you're advising jeb bush. why do you want a third person or a fourth person on that debate stage? >> it's a good question and an important question. i am a republican. i do expect to support governor bush as our nominee and most likely anybody who might defeat him as a nominee because i'm a republican. but what should matter more to all of us is the health of our political system. it's not very good right now. the gallup poll says the largest number of people, 43% in the history of gallup, identify as independents. the question puts from 60% to 80% the number of people who think our political system is dysfunctional and broken. we're on the wrong track according to about 60% of the american people. there's no one answer to this, michael. but all of us whether republican or democrat or independent ought to think about what's wrong with our political system. and there's a whole list of things. but one is, the presidential c

. >> if jeb bush watches the interview and calls vin weber and says vin, you're killing me with this somebody else on the debate stage. it could be someone who draws votes from me. you'll say to him what? >> that's not really the way to think about this issue. i think that the way to think about this issue is the health of the political system you want to be president of a country that has a vibrant political system in which most people have confidence. i hope that's not what we find out down the road. but that's not the issue, the issue is restoring some vitality to the american political system. which is in a serious dangerous tipping point almost. >> i would just point out that the debate that was held that included ross perot far exceeded in ratings, that which took place in the 2012 cycle. i think there's a real audience for this. and i agree, think it would be healthy for the country. >> and we have a much larger population now. and still smaller numbers of people are watching than watch the debate in 1992. we need to get people back into the political process. believing in the

vin weber we're out of time. i'm glad you're doing this. i agree. the '92 debates with perot. though were the interesting debates i can remember. the james stockdale moment aside. having perot there, i thngink it was great. thank you for joining us. al. >>> our full hour of news and politics is ahead. stay with us. if you're taking multiple medications does your mouth often feel dry? a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications. but it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene available as an oral rinse toothpaste, spray or gel. biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. remember, while your medication is doing you good a dry mouth isn't biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth. photos are great... ...for capturing your world. and now... ...they can transform it with the new angie's list app you can get projects done in a snap. take a photo of your project... ...or just tell us what you need done... ...and angie's list will find a top-rated provider to do the job. the an