as i say, vince callahan, former chairman of the house republican appropriations committee came out, said it would put a hole in the budget. senator mark warner came out the other day. >> mr. cuccinelli, you prepare your 60 second response. you said loopholes. we all hear that, don't know what it is. it sounds like you're afraid to tell us what you're thinking of cutting because it is two months before the election. >> chuck, what we're going to do with the loopholes and exemptions is rank them. we know what they are. they have all been identified. >> what are they? >> there's literally scores of them. and the standard of eliminating one is what's critical here. if all we're doing is giving money to a business interest, that's not something that's working for the people paying for it, which is the taxpayers of virginia. if instead out of that tax credit we get other economic benefits that return to the people, virginia's people paying for it, that's a tax credit to keep. those are the ones that we want to grow our economy, but on a bipartisan basis we've got to be able to find at lea