. >> i knew when i read that pilot script by vince gilligan at there was something very special. >> thatood of a script? >> it was terrific. i related to this man. i knew men like cam who missed -- like him who missed opportunities and or lives -- in their lives and became functioning, still functioning, still loving to their families, still paying their bills but there was something that died in the interior. they are putting one step in front of the other. they are in a deep depression and in doing some of the research, i found in broad strokes, when people are in deep depression, there are two basic ways it manifests -- either externally or internally. that boss, he, screwed me and otherwise my life would be completely different. ready to blame my ex-wife. >> somebody else's fault. >> or it is me and i missed it. i go into a shell. that was walter white. he went into a shell. he didn't care about his looks, his weight, his clothes. he was invisible to himself and the world. this ironic diagnosis of his get outcer was of jail for free card. it exploded his emotion. >> it gave him purpo