handle it not to minimize that, but here is a guy who can't handle it so much because you have vincent emmanuel7-eleven franchise. >> that's exactly right. we've been in business for 43 years and i only have one store and i have three daughters and my wife and we have a family to feed. reporter: here is the numbers i want to show david these numbers in philadelphia specifically. we had over 5,000 incidents of retail theft this year in the city. only 131 arrests. why is that? >> well, the district attorney in philadelphia thinks that i don't know what their mindset is he probably feels that shoplifting like a small crime really doesn't mean anything. reporter: it's not small to you. >> it's not. the older days of somebody coming and stealing a candy bar and a soda is not there anymore. they aren't the same people. these are professional shoplifters people coming in with the bags and throw everything in bags, it's easier to sell, and it's really bad out here. really really bad. reporter: in addition if you try to confront somebody you take your life in your hands right? >> absolutely, because the