and as time goes on of course that comes from vincent van gogh the artist who while he was alive his artwork wasn't considered that much but after he died so in the same way history will look kindly at donald trump and what he's doing right now. and in many cases that so many had for him they do you think that will be the case in a couple of decades from now. and that bold claim is forced to can seem it is remarkably bold 20 years into the century is that i do think if he does get elected for another 40 years to have an magnitude that to become the greatest speaker of that century. >> what was your research process? >> we went deep we look at media and read all of the churchill books. with of the biographies. and then to take a deep dive and what makes him winston churchill we look at all the speeches and in the back of the book we have chosen what i consider to be the five big speeches of both men. and so we tried to get both men as we could to find out everything we could to what made them who they were and who makes them the leaders that they are. in that research process and then

darkness falls and it's show time on the bill is loving vincent an animation about the artist vincent van gogh the residents are ready made audience for the apartment block screening. today to relax a bit to not seeing. something else moves. its. inquiries have already come from other parts of the city but lane is full of buildings suitable for screenings as if we were climb really pleased it's gone so well it's been a great success with this. focus. of film shows on the outside of top blocks and now planned twice a week moving location each time a welcome twist on open a cinema and a creative response to the crisis. some sports news a 3 members of the german bundesliga soccer side of cologne have tested positive for the corona virus all are symptom free and are in quarantine the club is not disclosing of the names or positions of the players news of the positive tests is a blow to the german football league's hopes of resuming the season later this month and a singapore 0 is close to the public because of the coronavirus it's penguins have been able to move around the premises without visitor

van gogh type of prisoner. that expression comes from vincent van gogh the artist. after he died he wasn't very much into fashion. in the same way history will look more kindly on donald trump than what he's doing right now. the level of acrimony and blind hatred that some have for him i don't think that's can be the case in a couple of decades from now. and the rather bold claim i make in my book and i will be the first to concede that it is remarkably bold considering that we are only 20 years into the century is that i do think that there is every chance if he does get elected for another four years he will have an impact on such a magnitude that they way may overcome the greatest figure of the century which i believe churchill was on the 20th century. >> we went and looked at media at the time. we went and read all of the churchill books that have been written whether they were biographies his own writing we took a deep dive into his past and his family and what makes him winston churchill. we certainly looked at all of the speeches including donald trump and in

i've always been a big trump guy and ultimately as time goes on he will be a van gogh type of president coming from vincent van gogh the artist while he was alive his artwork is not considered much but after he died all of a sudden now he comes into fashion in the same way history will look kindly on donald trump and what he is doing right now it does speak to that level love acrimony in many cases are hatred that so many have for him but i do think that will be the case in a couple of decades from now and the bold claims i make in my book and the first to concede it is remarkably bold considering we are only 20 years into the century is that i do think there is every chance if he does get elected another four years he will have an impact on such a magnitude he may well become the greatest speaker of this century which are the churchill was of the 20h century. >>host: what was a research process? >> we dig deep and look at media at the time, we read all of the churchill books that have been written whether or biographie biographies, his own writing writings, we took a deep dive into his past and his family

think ultimately as time goes on to me he's going to be very much a van gogh kind of president, that expression of course comes from vincent van gogh, the artist that while he was alive to southwick wasn't considered all that much, but after he died, all of a sudden, then he became very much in fashion, and i think in the same way history will look more kindly on donald trump than what it's doing right now. i do think the level of acrimony and in many cases overcome hatred so many have for him, i don't think that it's going to be the case in a couple of decades from now. the rather bold claim i make in my book it's remarkably bold considering that they are only 20 years into this century is that i do think there is every chance if he does get elected for another four years that he will have an impact on such a magnitude that he may well become the greatest figure of this century which of course i believe churchill was of the 20th century. >> host: what was your research process? >> guest: we went and looked at the media time and we went and read all of the churchill books that have been written whether they were biography

i think ultimately, as time goes on, he's going to be very much a van gogh kind of president that expression of course comes from vincent van gogh the artist who, while he was live his artwork was not really considered all that much. but after he died, all the sudden he came very much into fashion. think in the same way history will look kindly on donald trump and what he is doing right now. it does seem the level of acrimony and in many cases blind hatred that so many have for him, i don't think that is going to be the case in a couple of decades from now. the rather bold claim i make in my book was the first to concede it's remarkably bold considering we're only 20 years into the century, is that i do think there is every chance if he does get elected for another four years, that he will have an impact on such a magnitude that he may well become the greatest figure of this century which of course i believe churchill was of the 20h century. >> host: was a research process? >> guest: look, we went deep, peter, we looked at media at the time. we went and read all of the churchill books that have been written whether they

trump guy and i think that ultimately as time goes on he will be very much a van gogh kind of president and that comes from vincent van gogh the artist but the artwork was not considered all that much but after he died all the sudden he came very much into fashion and i think in the same way history will look more kindly on donald trump than what it is doing right now. i don't think that the level of acrimony and, in many cases, malign hatred this only have for him and i don't think that will be the case in a couple of decades from now. the rather bold claim i make in my book and i will be the first to concede that it is remarkably bold considering that we are only 20 years into this century is that i do think that there is every chance that if he does get elected for another four years that he would have an impact on such a magnitude that he may well become the greatest figure of this century which of course, i believe churchill was of the 20th century spirit what was your research like? >> look, we went deep, peter. we looked at media and at the time and we went and read all of the churchill books that have been

van gogh kind of president. that expression of course comes from vincent van gogh the artist who while he was alive his artwork wasn't considered all that much but after he died, all of a sudden he became very much into fashion. and i think in the same way history will look more kindly on donald trump than what it is doing right now. it does the level of acrimony and in many cases blind hatred that so many have for him. i don't think that's going to be the case in a couple of decades fromnow . and the rather bold claim i make in one book and i'll be the first to concede that it's remarkably bold considering we're only 20 years into this century is that i do think that there's every chance that he does get elected for another four years, that he will have an impact on such a magnitude that we may well become the greatest figure of this century which of course i believe churchill was of the 20th century. >> what was your research process? >> we went d peter. we look at media at the time. we read all of the churchill books that have been written, whether they were biographies . whether they were his own writings. we too

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podcasts out there there's a lot of ted talks to i was once thinking of giving a ted talk on vincent van gogh's brother tale calling it a tale of ted talk but then i saw that somebody had beat me to an art historian at some point but. we are talking they are here are the deliverer of the 4th most lodged ever tell me the topic tell me how do you how you i don't even know how one gets to a launch pad for a ted talk and then are you amazed that it takes off to that degree it was a 10 x. so it was one of the it was actually quite a small event was only about 50 people in seattle washington and back then ted x. was a reasonably new idea where you can put on your own you can organize your own ted event and you get a license from the 10 organizations i actually was in on the main ted stage and i shared this idea that of this theory that i'd been. sharing for a couple years prior. based on this i concept of why that every single one of us knows what we do these are the jobs we perform the products we sell whatever it is like that some of us some of us know how we do it the things that we think make us

definitely doesn't want me to break randy has to stop me by finding the red button this looks like vincent van goghd we're playing dancing clues. stripper, stripper, stripper [ laughter ] >> like, cocaine, honestly like, sorry. all i'm getting is coke vibes. >> daniel: coming up in one minute