a press conference in the country's capital, bernie the president of the swiss confederation, viola amhertthere by these stands, we'll definitely go on the air , but while we've got a few minutes, i'd like some more... continuing on that topic, look, i didn't find statistics as of now, i just won’t look for them, but i think that you can roughly understand, as of january 1 last year, the debt of ukrainians for communal services reached uah 120 billion, taking into account debts in temporarily occupied territories, well, during this time of temporarily occupied territories in my opinion it definitely didn't happen anymore, but even if somewhere there the enemy repulses some square kilometers, then for sure no one pays the utility bill there, well, if we are talking about the direction of bakhmut, let's say or zaporizhzhia somewhere, then it is clear. this is such a huge amount and it is clear that it will grow, according to your experience, are there people who, let's say, have profits, but simply do not pay, because those people, by the way, who have the most non-payers are those who... di