what does that -- virgil says, hold, i don't mean that.hat does that tills -- tell us about how this event happened? >> guest: i'll repeat that i think something was bound to happen. whether it was going to involve these specific individuals or others, there was just too much tension and too much mistrust. james earp said later he thought there 'twas a certain amount of pressure put on virgil by some of the towns people that -- if that hadn't happened, none of this would occurred. i liked virgil a lot and ended up feeling sorry for him. i think he tried very hard to be a good lawman in the eyes of average americans today, the gunfight at the ok

nowhere to go pick from and if there is a comparison to the john come and sometimes i worry that we'll virgil m. in there are strategic reasons why we are in afghanistan which multiplied pa hartwick a just focus on that one central issue and maybe debbie can you follow-up on the incomplete answer. [laughter] >> i think there are ana analogs between the two definitely come and i think that could if you look at what was going on like my father said in the very first meeting that obama had at the foreign policy -- pnac, a co-author, not my father. [laughter] >> khanna ied your co-father? [laughter] >> in the very first meeting he talked about afghanistan as not vietnam has always been there in their mind as something that is a comparison and yet you can say there is definitely a reasoned the u.s. went into afghanistan that are important and that are different from why the u.s. lending to vietnam and there's a lot of differences, too, but i think that in the and that's true. it's going to be in a lot of people's mind. like the see the president on tv talking about troop levels. that does go back

not quite the equivalent of virgil's cancelle cancelled-- flying-- but still t exists somewhere. >> rose: well, what is interesting here is that you quoting-- said never, when you start out it is like driving at night, can't see beyond so are you in search of something. you don't know where. >> that's right. >> rose: and you are in search of answers to something you want explained but you don't know the answer when you start. >> you know a little bit of the answer and then the surprise that roger talks about so eloquently in his book, comes out when suddenly what you have written raises a question that you weren't aware of before. and you see the path going somewhere else and you must follow. >> that is mbe the mystery, of the sentence, as stanley says, it's certainly the mystery of words. why, we hit on a form on which to express ourselves. and the selves that we express are different. we don't know where they came from. sometimes we admire them. sometimes we're scared of them. >> rose: how to write a sentce and how to read one, stanley fish. unless it moves the human heart, the craft a

virgil wanted to be a good lawman. i think the was very pragmatic about the way he enforced the law. preferred giving people chance to back away without embarrassing them or having their pride attacked. he did his best that day to let the cowboys settle down and ride on out of town, and finally felt forced to act. when he did, he called on the people who trusted most, his two brothers, and then of course there doc, who was never going to mission mist an owe indication like this. ... >> if that had been the case, then something similar would have happened, i think, sometime soon. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> up next on booktv, ha-joon chang takes a critical look at capitalism. this lasts about an hour, 20 minutes. >> my name is peter maravelis, i'm the events coordinator here at city lights bookstore, and i'd like to welcome you all to city lights, a literary landmark since 1953. we're very happy to have with us ha-joon chang tonight, he teaches at the faculty of economics at the uni

>> first of all, i think virgil small made was when he settled i don't cannot. i think the earp's moment came the day after the gunfight when instead of being recognized as heroes, which they were expecting company that 2000 mourners turning out for the l.a. kelantan and mclaury brothers. the tombstone leaders -- by the way, one of the things about historians like land is they don't just want to have a different opinion looking at the same set of facts. it's the open-mindedness that encourages discussion rather than arguments. i've learned so much from him. i think we all have. but what i thought i was talking about -- hang on to second. it's been a long day with all the sites. the fathers did not consider the earp's there equals. there were people. there were tools that could be certain functional things. after the gunfight, after public opinion began to say, sometimes looking like it's going against the earp, town leaders think we've got a bunch of voters here who may not like a way this turned out and they are not supporting them as much. the earp's were disp

>> first of all, i think virgil small made was when he settled i don't cannot. i think the earp's moment came the day after the gunfight when instead of being recognized as heroes, which they were expecting company that 2000 mourners turning out for the l.a. kelantan and mclaury brothers. the tombstone leaders -- by the way, one of the things about historians like land is they don't just want to have a different opinion looking at the same set of facts. it's the open-mindedness that encourages discussion rather than arguments. i've learned so much from him. i think we all have. but what i thought i was talking about -- hang on to second. it's been a long day with all the sites. the fathers did not consider the earp's there equals. there were people. there were tools that could be certain functional things. after the gunfight, after public opinion began to say, sometimes looking like it's going against the earp, town leaders think we've got a bunch of voters here who may not like a way this turned out and they are not supporting them as much. the earp's were disp