virgin atlantic survived because we offer the best quality product across the atlantic. but to be perfectly honest, key not guarantee virgin atlantic's survival if, if ba and aa are allowed to merge. it'll be, you know, like competing with our hands tied behind our back, our legs, you know, bound up. and it'll be, it'll be very, very difficult. >> tell us about your plans to operate the newest wide-bodied jet liner, the airbus a380. what markets will the 380 serve, will this aircraft be a formidable competitor to the ba and american airlines fleet? >> well, we will operate the a-380 on the longer routes, so routes like tokyo, hong kong, australia, los angeles. new york. and it's a great plane. we're actually at the moment talking to airbus to try to persuade them to lengthen it because i think the economics of the plane will be astoundingly good if they can have a double-decker, double-decker. thank you. >> one of our members of the audience says he avoids heathrow because of high taxes and fees and congestion and suggests that why not move virgin's hub to another nearby