it is west virginia. west virginia and west virginians. i am telling you with all in me, if you want to drive proper to values in this state up, and if somebody is concerned someone is going to go across and buy soda pop or buy cigarettes across the border, i would say just this. those people across the border are going to come here to live for crying out loud, why would we be worried about such a thing is that. they are probably going to be coming to you to live. your stores will be filled can't imagine. the opportunity is right here, right now. i can tell you just this too, the steepest part of the mountain, if you just watch, any mountain you have climbed in your life, the most difficult part is always near the top. it is always near the top. you start off like this, go like this, all of a sudden you are standing looking at that last little part, to get from here to kathy, is almost straight up. most people climb back down. i am confident you won't. the big question in all our minds is, where are we going to be in 10 years, 20 years? i

virginia truckee railroad. and reno really grew up as being the last stop before the desert and the last stop before the mountains and we are the main rail hub that the silver was sent through on its way to san francisco. so the comstock load was a large deposit of silver in virginia city on the virginia range, and it was mined in earnest from 1860 until about 1886. with boom and bus periods, but one of the largest discoveries of that period was the big bonanza of 1873 when the conversignia struck one of the largest silver deposits that we know about that. mine was owned by john mackey who is the namesake of this building? john mackie was born in the early 1830s in dublin, ireland and he and his family came over to new york where he grew up in the five points neighborhood of new york city. and when he was old enough he left new york and took a ship to panama hiked to cross panama got on another ship and landed in the goldfields of california. he was part of the 1849 gold rush and what have arrived around 1850-5

she has sponsored by toyota motor manufacturing west virginia, high mark of west virginia, west virginia lottery, west virginia educators association her name, and make her absolutely welcome. her achievement is unbelievable. our teacher of the year erin anderson. [applause] i won't keep you a whole lot longer. i've got to just say this, i've had a team around me in this covid deal. our covid czar, clay morris. our general of our national guard, general hoyer, our dhhr secretary, secretary crouch and the doctor. all those all over the place, all of those in our health communities and our first responders and all of those that absolutely have braved this fight. can you imagine-- i say it all the time, but can you just imagine, imagine crawling out of bed, getting your scrubs on or whatever it may be and going right into the fire as you kiss your children goodbye and hope you'll see them again later in the day. knowing you could bring it home. knowing there were so many uncertainties in the beginning and yet, they win. our virtual workers did the same thing, and yet they win. they did ever

anyway, nevertheless yankee west virginia. youmake me proud . >> healthcare professionals and policy experts talk about the new covid-19 variance. in a conversation today at the center for international studies live at 2 pm eastern on c-span2. >> the senate continues work on president biden's cabinet nomination. a confirmation vote for alejandro mayorkas was moved from monday to tuesday due to winter storms in the northeast. other confirmation votes are expected later in the week. in the house the first votes of the week are expected tuesday. they plan to take up a budget resolution that could set the stage for passage of a new round of covid relief. the vote is possible on a rules change to impose fines on members who don't comply with new screening members measures to enter the house floor. what's the house live on c-span and the senate on c-span2. >> 10 republican senators will meet with president biden at 5 pm eastern to talk about the next covid-19 relief package. republicans releasing details of their belief proposal whi

but west virginia is getting better and better. i remind all those that are 65, all those that are 65 years of age, please, the second that you feel the least bit bad, no matter what, you absolutely have got to get tested. please get tested. as far as our -- let me fall back on that, just to make sure everybody knows, if you get tested and you test positive, we'll get you the antibodies and everything to be able to shut this thing down and shut it down quick. otherwise come if you let it go, let it go, let it go, you could become another casualty, and we don't want that. the vaccine distribution update -- this week we are still building incredible work regarding the vaccine administration rate. for last week's allocation -- just get this number -- for last week's allocation, our administrative rate was 108.1% of what we received. it's amazing. on first-round doses. we are at 70% on the second-round doses. just think, we continue to lead the nation, on every broadcast everywhere -- west virginians, you are looking great and we have

virginia: right. and recently, day had publicity about going back to that, so -- >> what did you think about that? virginia: oh, well i did not know enough about all of the different reactors. but from what i read in the paper, it sounded like a good idea. >> did you encounter any particular challenges, because you are a woman scientist? virginia: i have had that question asked before. i was unaware of any problems. uh, the male workers were friendly, cooperative. i did have one man, who said he thought women's place was in the home. but he was cooperative. and i went out to california after the war. and on the way back, i stopped, and stayed with him and his wife. they had moved back after the war. but that was the only occurrence i had. >> a slightly different question, do you remember which buildings you worked at, at y12? virginia: it was9204 dash, but i cannot ever what the dash number was. >> when you are in the -- when you were in the bullpen you are teaching courses to other folks? virginia: i

has west virginia, in particular, seen any of those cases? and then as pfizer and moderna is very crucial that you get that second dose. so with the biden administration asking and kind of foregoing you to set aside that second dose, how is west virginia handling this? are we setting aside second doses to ensure that every west virginiaen gets all the vaccines they need? thank you. >> governor? >> yes, sir. go, doc. >> okay. sounds good. well, thank you for the question. so as we look at the mutant viruses, we know that at least at this point we have not defined any of these mutant viruses in west virginia. we know that there is a case of the south african mutant, i believe, in baltimore. there are a few cases of -- there's, like, the uk variants in 33 states i think now. south carolina and then there was one case of the brazilian mutant in minnesota and somebody that traveled to brazil. but as we look at the virus, we know the virus is not perfect in its replication cycle. so we will see more mutations and the mutations in the spike proteins

is that virginia is? very rich in history and people a lot of historians and architectural historians have done a lot of working virginia because you know, there are a lot of it's tied to a lot of history and presidents and things like that. and so there's always research going on in virginia and it's well documented in many ways. so i'd like to see how other sites compared to virginia if they you know have a lot of research going on there like virginia or if they are in more need of this type of documentation and research there you can learn more about jobie. hill's saving slave houses project by visiting c-span.org/history and viewing american artifacts saving slave houses, which documented a visit to brandon plantation in virginia. the c-span cities tour travels the country exploring the american story since 2011. we've been to more than 200 communities across the nation like many americans our staff is staying close to home due to the coronavirus. next a look at one of our city's tour visits. now that

be given land, something that didn't fly with the virginia assembly. what he did push for religious toleration for reform of the criminal statutes in virginia and many of his reforms were eventually realized. in 1779, with the war effort really suffering, washington came to the conclusion that the best man who once served in congress, a man like benjamin franklin and john adams and jefferson had left and the congress was suffering in their absence. and washington wrote to george mason in virginia and said very pointedly, where is jefferson? when his country needs him. and that got back to jefferson and stung by washington's apparent criticism, jefferson agreed to serve as the governor of virginia and he served two extremely difficult and not terribly successful terms as the governor of virginia. i think almost any one of the governors would have had the difficulties that jefferson had, but he certainly did have a tempestuous time as governor. for both, the time period on the cusp of the 17 eighties and during the 17 eighties were pivotal moments. for h

so we have people from like virginia foundation for humanities, preservation virginia, duncan parnell, which is like a local retailer of tremble equipment that has worked with me. i will have people from colonial williamsburg coming out. some architectural historians. and that also will be exciting because he was -- colonial williamsburg documented this site in the '80s. it will be interesting to get his perspective of what it looks like now in 2017. the last time he was here was back in 1980. the building was originally documented by the american buildings survey in the '60s. >> my name is ed chapel. i am an architecturalal historian and sometime archaeologist. i work for colonial williamsburg, responsible for architectural research, architectural history, and for a while, archaeology. i worked for 36 years and some change, and retired in 2016. one of the principal things that our generation at colonial williamsburg did was to broaden the fish net, if the you will, the look at regional buildings. so we know that buildings we have in williamsburg tell powerful stories. but they don't

in virginia, maryland as well.o we were here about 20 years ago, so i am back with this team to look further and tried to report more. it's one of the many places that has this rich variety of people who worked and lived here, in the countryside. it was actually photographed before we came -- there is very for good photographic recordings. we came back did another layer of measured drawings, eight or ten buildings, planned sections, elevations. a number of those extraordinary buildings are now gone. today we're using new technology, mine is in some ways a medieval system of drying things by hand. there's a role for that still i think, but we are also here doing extraordinary digital recording. takes the texture of the buildings to a degree that we were able to do in the old days using all fairness fashioned pencil and paper. and measuring stick. but we did an amazing amount of recording 20 some years ago. so be the drawings of all the buildings. >> there is a professor, my thesis adviser, he has traveled to be here

here his father was a planter and grew up kind of in the elite gentry of virginia families and was the oldest of several siblings so he brought into the world the experience of being an oldest brother and had a very demanding and unconventional father who raised him here and a mother who was very warm and may be a little anxious as some of the studies and i write about it in the book and so he was the eldest son of a premier family in virginia at that time and he enjoyed all the benefits and all the burdens that came with that so he was sent away to an elite boarding school when he was young through his early teens and was sent out of the state to go to college at the college of new jersey and was the eldest born and someone that his family invested in which later became princeton and that was an unusual choice because it was not william and mary which was where most parents at that time sent their kids who are in the social class. it was not an anglican college so it was a presbyterian one and that carried carried a lot with it, that choice. his father brought him back after graduatin

the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. beyer: thank you, mr. speaker. i want to recognize chairman yarmuth and his leadership on the budget committee is so remarkable we take it for granted. this bill will set us on the path to defeating the virus and provide urgent relief. this chamber and chairman yarmuth has done this with skill and grace. i want to thank speaker pelosi for her extraordinary leadership, guiding the house through all the challenges this pandemic had and this bill will ultimately sustain millions of americans during this crisis. president biden has called for a package that meets the moment. and speaker pelosi has led us down a path to get us there. we passed the cares act and provided additional support for families and businesses during the spring and fall and now as we begin the expeditious process to beat the virus, give the american people the relief they need. i'm glad she asked me to join the economic committee during this ng co. i look forward to partnering with my colleagues on both sides of the

and then he intends to remain in virginia. the ninth of the rebellion, eight horrendous thunderstorm occurs in two of the spotters lose their nerve rat him out. once the ring leaders are caught the executions begin. monroe writes a passage this is an 1800, to his mentor and best friend jefferson talking about the weight this is on him. and it is literally, it's almost a combination early abraham lincoln, pontius pilot and hamlet. one of his last sentences is where stay the hand of the executioner? jefferson writes back immediately where to stay the hand of the executioner is a good question. but later in his letter he said it should be soon because he became hanging the enslaved are going to start costing me votes in the north. they talk about possibilities of releasing the enslaved rebels to what would be basically indian territory or oklahoma, somewhere far out west and that doesn't work. when monroe is the ambassador to great britain he starts up a friendship with william wilberforce was a driving force to the slave trade i

west virginia has a rural population. i think the part of florida mirrors west virginia in terms of its nature. do you think that the system you set up can work well in other areas, perhaps like my district? >> certainly, i think that each state can come up with their own strategies, but i do believe that by having clear expectations and priorities, making sure you have open communication and working as a team, and making this a learning mode, not something that's top-down, but you are inviting the creativity of your team. >> do you think that there is some specific successful strategies for reducing vaccine waste? some of this is not waste, it's just second doses being held appropriately or inappropriately . but how do we reduce waste if it is as bad as we think? >> i know we are over time and i will just say that i know there are some strategies we can pursue together to accomplish that goal. >> thank you, madam chair, i yield back. >> dr. marsh, we would love to hear your ideas if you would like to submit them to the c

what we're seeing in virginia is _ now? what we're seeing in virginia is what _ now?s what we're - now? what we're seeing in i virginia is what we're seeing across the us in the —— as a country. if you look in the courts, fewer and fewer and fewer death sentences are being handed out byjudges, so this national picture of a producing support for the death penalty, we look at virginia itself. if the democrat—controlled state, joe biden won their last year by ten points. the governors are democrats, they're also controlled by the democrats. democrats are more likely to oppose the death penalty. if the first southern state to do so and traditionally, there been greater proponent of capital punishment. virginia since 1976 has executed 113 people, that's second only to texas. what we're seeing now across america as a whole is changing social trends that is translating into changing laws. this follows the debate around president trump trying to rush through, carry out federal executions. put that into context for a.— executions. put that into context for a. he really stood a

two years later, he drafted a virginia constitution that stated flatly no person should come into virginia to be held in slavery under any pretext whatever. with regards, jefferson was much more cautious about abolition. in 1784, he moved to what might have been potentially the most important anti slavery action of his public career. it was in that year that he sponsored a bill before the virginia legislature which would have granted freedom to all slaves, all blacks, born after the passage of that act. law -- that could have made a dramatic difference. but when the bill went before the legislature the following year, 1785, jefferson withdrew his support for it because he claimed he had quote found that the public mind would not yet bear the proposition. in other words, he found it was unpopular with voters. this action shows us highly significant aspects of jefferson's attitude to administration he withdrew the proposal for the reason that he did. jefferson was a politician and had to be concerned with public opinion. the second revelation of this episode is jefferson's proposal meant inc

soledad: west virginia is not a very diverse state. and yet your numbers for diverse people who've been vaccinated are impressive, are high. how are you able to do that in a state that, you know, does not stand out for its diversity? dr. marsh: west virginia was ranked by the kaiser family foundation as the most vulnerable state. and we've deeply involved our african-american community and a task force and started to work with leaders in the faith based communities to be able to reach all west virginians and try to help people feel safe. because initially, taking the vaccine vaccine hesitancy was an , issue for us. but that seems to be much better today than it was at the beginning of the vaccine response. soledad: what advice would you give leadership in other states who might say west virginia, small state, 1.8 million people. what can they tell us about learning about the vaccine? what can you tell them? dr. marsh: get simple and clear on what you're trying to do, measure what you're doing and understand your own needs. bring people

, virginia in the 1770s was an anglican colony.ficial was the anglican church, and all of a sudden these baptist ministers started seeping into virginia and drawing people away from the anglican parishes, and they were not happy about that, and they had english law at the time to enforce, and you couldn't just go out and preach. you had to be licensed by anglican state authorities. well, it happened that one of the largest revivals and meetings happened near the town of orange, virginia, which is where james madison lived, and so james%[4á<& madison knew abot people that he knew were at the time in jail in culpepper, which is just right up the road, so he had a firsthand knowledge of the harassment of these baptist clergy and their followers. he was only in his early 20s at the time, and he had begun to get interested in politics as his father was, and he was elected to a committee to prepare a declaration of rights, what my friend here tim shah has been talking about. the original draft was written by george mason. contemporary of

the real roots of the virginia stat to. join me in welcoming, tim shaw. >> good evening and happy religious freedom day. i don't know how many of you knew when you woke up this morning that it was a religious freedom day. it doesn't get a lot of attention, doesn't get the attention that it deserves but religious freedom is such a crucial important principle, it certainly deserves its own day and deserves its own conversation here this evening. congratulations to museum of the bible, congratulations to the institute for studies of religious for hosting this important conversation about religious freedom. religious freedom is of enormous importance. we know that it was of enormous importance to thomas jefferson. the reason that it's religious freedom day is because it was on this day and 1786 that the virginia assembly finally enacted what became known as the virginia statutes for religious freedom. and that statute was offered by thomas jefferson. he first wrote the text of the bill around 1777 which means he wrote it around

ultimately west virginia and made a plan that worked for us. it is a matter of clear communication, breaking down sectors. everybody wore the same hat. and as we go forward we are reiterating our approach to move in the most expeditious wayicy possible. i want to reinforce with the congressman set as well. the fact that we have these vaccines are game changers it is the most complex problematic response in the history of modern day america and in the world. staying together and working together with each other sharing best practices key for the global and country success. >> i yield back. >> you are recognized for five minutes. >>e? since the start of the vaccine rollout the challenges and issues facing states and local health departments have been endless whether a lack of transparency or how much vaccine will be allocated to states each weekend how to prioritize vaccination are just a simple lack of vaccine there is one think about the process in my district in upstate new york we are seeing more covid infection cases that we have had any tim

in those days west virginia. now why harper is very because there was a federal arsenal there and john brown's idea was to seize the weapons in the arsenal and distribute them among slaves in the vicinity of harper's very in the slaves would use these weapons to rise up against their masters killing their masters if necessary to achieve their freedom and so shake the institution of slavery that slaves would lose their value and eventually the slaveholders would have to concede. okay, we have to give up this institution. so this is john brenner. and he's trying to start a war two free the slaves. it turns out to be a fiasco and without getting into the details. he is captured. he's arrested he's tried he is hanged. and in going to the gallows he slips out a note to his jailer in which he prophesied. that the evils of this country will be purged only by blood. well this sent shockwaves as you can imagine through the south, you know, his attack was on virginia. he was convicted of treason against the commonwealth of

from the standpoint of what we've done or i've done but the west virginia and the people west virginiaalong the way it is not rocket science but there's a lot of things going haywire in california for sure. elizabeth: when you're in a pandemic you need houses of worship and spirituality and that kind of stuff that people need when they're in a tough time and it's interesting your state you deem them of essential, you mention what's going on in m california, anothr california democrat broke the states own shutdown roles i district attorney outside of sacramento. she is next in line to be california's attorney general she hold the big wedding at her house, shege had were rules sayo gathering the homes and know people from other households coming to your homes she said she socially distant but people were upset that she broke the rules. other california politicians have been breaking shutdown roles. what do you say to this. >> you practice what you preach really at the end of the day things come home, going back to what you just said earlier that people needed places were enter into worsh

i live in west virginia. west virginia and mississippi take turns at being the two poorest states in the united states. but when you're making -- like i said, i was making $15,691, can you imagine that, john? can you imagine living on that? and the furnace went out, i had to go borrow $6,000 to get my furnace worked. now i have a mortgage and another payment. thank god that i was able to do that. but, you know, they got to help the people out here. forget about throwing money to the los angeles lakers and amazon and all that kind of stuff. the people, the people, us. thank you, john, you all have a good day and god bless. >> thanks for calling in. it's been a year since your heart attack, right? >> caller: yeah, my heart attack was last february the 13th. i got to go to the doctor this thursday. me and the dog live by myself. it's tough. it's tough. >> i'm glad you're doing better since then. let's make sure we talk each february going forward. hope you continue to stay well out there in clarksberg. >> jim fr

in virginia, north carolina, and keep in mind if they hadn't sued to overturn maps in virginia, north carolina, pennsylvania, and florida the last decade, they would not have the slim majority in the house. they would likely be in the minority. every seat matters. we will be waiting to see whether courts are sympathetic to the voting rights act argument in this round of redistricting. host: back to ohio. this is sue. good morning. caller: good morning. host: you are on with david wasserman. caller: the districting they did in ohio was not right, because they took our main one from canton, ohio and put it up to wadsworth. it is not going according to the original ohio charter. the districts were not to be separated and strung out like they are. guest: part of the reform in ohio is actually geared toward minimizing the number of split counties and trying to make the districts more compact. i don't believe you can split stark county, which i believe is canton, more than once, in this new redistricting regime. a number of democrats worry that it could begin to fight republicans and it is

i believe the commonwealth of virginia should reopen. quite honestly there's simply no relief package that can replace the american economy, american businesses are the productivity of the american worker, let alone compensate for our essential freedoms that have been lost during the covid mandates lockdowns and shutdowns i have other legislation that addressed the tragedies caused by endless lockdowns. i'll introduce a bill that would prohibit states locking down small businesses and receiving these bailout funds. of course the democrats disagree. they see the help that's needed now more than ever but sadly not one democrat assigned on. under the biden administration the only action is more bailouts, endless mandates and more confiscations of money from overtaxed americans that are hurting so deeply. every cent in this bill should be dedicated toward actually combating the virus and the crisis of despair that is worsened every day by these tragic policies. my motion will seek to do just that. i yield back. >> time for debate on the moti

why does he fight kamala harris on being west virginia tv.'s the vice president of the united states. >> robin, quickly, do you think the covid relief pressure coming prom the republican governor helps on that yes vote on the big covid relief package? >> i hope that it does because when you've got a governor who actually tells the people of we've that the covid vaccine will not cause people to grow antlers and he's more ahead of things than the senator from west virginia is, you've got -- you've got to hope that that's going to drive senator manchin further toward the bill. if i may really quickly, though, let's understand that joe manchin has a woman problem, okay? 1996 he shanked the west virginia democratic party because the nominee was a woman. and it comes forward in this business with neera tanden. and at the same time he supports jeff sessions, a racist? and it's inexplicable, chris. >> lots of anger at him for that double standard. thank you for making time tonight. that's all in on this wednesday night. the rachel maddow show starts

but as amna nawaz reports, west virginia has been a leader from the outset.'s outpaced nearly every other state when it comes to vaccinations. >> nawaz: for 75-year-old ed turley, the question was never if he would get the vaccine... >> i talked to my wife about it. you don't know what it's like to be married to a nurse. >> nawaz: what is it like? >> you can't get away with nothing. >> nawaz: the question was when. the very day he was eligible, he booked a slot. >> i was relieved when they called and said i could get it. i wasn't going to turn them down and i had my mind made up. i wasn't going to turn it down. >> left arm okay? >> nawaz: on this day, turley was one of about 250 people vaccinated at a clinic in preston county, west virginia. >> alright ed, you're all finished. >> okay. >> nawaz: his home state is now leading the country when it comes to vaccinations. seven weeks into their rollout, west virginia's already vaccinated more than 12% of its population, including both doses delivered to all nursing home residents and most health care workers. now

the capitol would be in virginia. ten years later and that meanwhile in the interim it would be in philadelphia while they have to build this city that would eventually be named for george washington. that's a resident act of 1790. the votes on a lot of these difficult measures failed to hear you see george washington playing a political chess match. when washington wanted to flip a vote, you bet he did. washington strategically picked a couple members of congress, met with them personally and flipped every single vote to get the votes he needed to get his capitol city, next slide. he play further washington not only help at the location of the capitol, he picks the architect, he picks the architect for the residence house open. washington to help survey the land. washington helps sell the plots. washington helps raise money. washington helps decide what buildings would go and it's. so washington, washington, washington. it is his project. it is his near obsession. so washington picks the brilliant frenchman, which wa

in west virginia, liz, first of all, thanks for having me, but liz, you know in west virginia we declaredal. and so our churches never shut down here. we had issues from time to time but we dealt with it and not big issues. from the standpoint of just arbitrarily shutting down our churches, one of our most sacred freedoms and everything, i just, i think the supreme court is making axe chutely the right decision and, along the way, the people of california honestly they have got so much to think about their fabulous state, beauty beyond belief and everything else but they have made, the leadership has really made some really questionable moves on the chessboard along the way. you know, i, i'm not being braggadocios about west virginia about the standpoint what we've done or what i've done, people in west virginia have maintained their economics and done the right stuff along the way. it is not rocket science but there is a lot of things going haywire in california for sure. elizabeth: when you're in a pandemic, you need, you know, houses of worship and spirituality and you know, that kind

buwest virginia has been a leader from the outset. outpaced nearly every other state when it comes to vaccinations. >> for 75 ed turly the question wasn't if he would get the vaccine. >> i talked to my wife, and you don't know what it's like to be married to a nurse. >> what is it like? >> you can't get by with nothing. [laughter] >> the question was when? the very day he was eligible he booked a slot >> i was relieved. i wasn't going to tell him then. >> left arm ok? >> on this day, turley was one of about 50 people vaccinated in preston county, west virginia. his home state is leading the country when it comes to vacks nations. seven weeks into their rollout, west virginia has vaccinated more than 12% of its population including both doses delivered to all nursing home residents and most healthcare workers. now, anyone 65 and older can sign up on a statewide wait list. each week local clinics work their way down that list and schedule the next round of shots. >> i need your consent and then your card. >> this west virginia universit

but in west virginia, that is what we did.instead of trying to create a bureaucratic mo model to get going, we got going. and we knew it was about age, age and age. and we knew that our elderly want to go to their local pharmacies and they want to go to the local health clinics and everything. and so we dispursed the national guard and just got after it. just imagine that today, and this is hard to believe, but we have put on first round shots of the vaccines that we've received, we're now at 108.1% of the vaccines received that we've put in arms, meaning that we've got more vaccines out of the vials and absolutely not thrown a single one away. i mean, west virginia is a small state, but it bounds with a lot of good and smart people and we've been missed in a long of ways and it is going on here and going on good. >> i think this is critically important. you've had a message to other governors who have struggled and that is stop playing the same play. another football analogy. stop running the same play. are they calling you n

the donovan virginia. -- the gentleman from virginia reserves a point of order. >> has everybody seen the amendment? another minute or so? >> collections matter. this one mattered. >> there are members who need to mute. >> go simple and go big. >> i encourage you to keep talking. we will have a vote on this in two seconds. >> mute your line. >> you need to create demand. >> i assume we are waiting. >> can i call your attention? i am more than happy to let dr. winthrop's amendment proceed but we want to protect taxpayers from stolen identity. that is universal. but want to make sure this can be administered by the irs. if the judgment like to speak or withdraw it, that's fine. the germane this of the amendment, that's the point. >> mr. chairman? >> >> we think on substance there might be a way forward. >> mr. chairman, mi recognized? -- and my recognized? thank you. this week, i wrote a letter cosigned by several of my republican colleagues asking the administration to take action to protect taxpayers who were victims of fraud. unfortunately, by thieves stealing from the programs, and