host: ok, joseph in stafford, virginia. independent line from west virginia. we will hear from donald. caller: good morning. i have been hearing for weeks them run down joe manchin. let me assure you, west virginia is behind joe manchin. his poll numbers were good before. i would say they are even better this morning. bernie sanders does not represent west virginia. joe manchin does. host: why did you support his decision on this build back better act? ah, you hung up. let's hear from anthony, minneapolis, minnesota, democrats line. caller: i think future president manchin -- that is what he wants to do, become president. it is ridiculous that the part of the country he represents is the poorest part of the country and nobody listens to the point you brought up earlier, that he makes money off of fossil fuels. to the people in this country who believe we need to have coal, the coal industry, if you look it up, the peak of the coal industry was in 1914 at the beginning of world war i. we only have 60,000 to 70,000 coal workers. why is it so important to keep a

to virginia. tyler took 18 interest in what his daughter was reading. recommended all the things he read when he was young. we definitely wanted her to develop a fertile mind. his oldest son, robert tyler was born in 1816 had a pretty decent relationship with john tyler. he was a student at william and mary like his father. did well at william and mary but there is still a distance between the two of them or formality almost. the fact they did not see each other that much will robert was growing up. john tyler junior was born in 1819 no doubt took his father's absence of the hardest. young john, and eventually became an alcoholic, suffered through a troubled marriage that was largely his doing. before and after despaired of that one point thinking he was going to be dead they found that his son and namesake would be dead. with his children, leticia who found it extremely difficult to deal with her husband continuous absences. there is an anecdote from may of 1831 that is particularly telling in th

to virginia.er took a keen interest in what his daughter was reading, recommended that she read as many newspapers as she coo could find, pope, addison shakespeare and he wanted her to develop a fertile mind. his oldest son robert tyler who was born in 1816, had a pretty decent relationship with john tyler. he was a student at william and mary like his father. did well at william and mary and there is still a distance between them, the formality owing to the fact that they didn't see each other much while robert was growing up. john tyler jr., who was born in 1819, no doubt was the one who took his father's absence the hardest. john, young john eventually became an alcoholic, suffered through a troubled marriage that was largely his doing. and really had a lot of troubles both before and after tyler's presidency that john tyler really despaired of, at one point thing that he would end up dead, that his son and namesake would be dead. so there is a lot of contention within the relationships that ty

, the army of northern virginia. almost nothing in there was proceeding 30 years gave the slightest hint in the nature of the decision he made, his decision to leave the army, to forswear his oath to defend the united states, which he first took in 1829. to refuse what would have been the pinnacle of his military career, so as mary chestnut discovered, nothing so characterizes robert e. lee as the question mark. why? why did he do what he did? why was he the man that he was? well, leads general answer in 1861 for that big decision, about refusing command of the federal forces, was that he was a virginian. and when virginia succeeded from the union, he was obliged to follow virginia into the confederacy. but was he? of virginiaalthough robert e. n on the northern neck of virginia in 1807, he had grown up in alexandria, which was then part of the district of columbia. alexandria and northern virginia would only be retroceded to the commonwealth of virginia long after lee had left. in the 1830s. most of his life thereaf

eric eyre how unique is mud lick west virginia and what happened to it? >> it is a really small community there is about 30 residents outlive their and to show you how small it is, it took me a while to figure out how to spell it i heard mud lick is one word in mud lick as two words and i actually had to call the sheriff's office in wayne county to figure out exactly how to spell it and she says it's two words but don't worry there's only 30 people that live there and they won't be reading your book. it's a typical hollow and west virginia and between the mountains, that is where the overdose that started this whole story and this all occurred with the overdose on oxycontin it's very small and very rural. >> at one point did 12 million oxycontin arrived in the count of 30 residents reads alert? >> it really raised alerts we had to go to court to unseal some documents, there was a modified complaint that was filed in circuit court in a case of the distributors, west virginia versus the drug distributors and these are companies that shift onto chip opioids

and it virginia succeeded from him his wife would follow to virginia in the confederacy but where wase, then robert e. lee was born in virginia in 1907, he had grown up in alexandria, which was then head of the district of columbia, alexandria and virginia with a fully be preceded to the commonwealth of virginia 1930, long after lee. [inaudible]. and then he went into other places, georgia st. louis baltimore and new york city every year. as father, harry, had been politically a federalist and - politically and he and mary one of the former families of virginia but also of arlington and arlington in the potomac facing the national capitol ♪ ♪ virginia and his in-laws were . [inaudible]. and the state law was afterwords but you could not ignore 1961, two factors first, harry lee, and father and he left his family for the west indies when robert was only six years old. in the shadow that the white horse harry cast over the lee name is really roberts to redeem and hence that broad streak in fhis behavior and he also where to be free of his father's reputation in many ways, here is dennis

all the evidence is expects by taking command of virginia forces began to train virginia completely with the confederacy and going to war with the united states. for the first month is in command of virginia forces, all the words he gets our day and. when thomas jonathan jackson who is not yet stonewalled jackson from when he takes his troops across the river to occupy the maryland heights across harpers ferry, he isn't back because they shouldn't provoke anything. the expectations are going to work this out with cap this disruption and secession but after the hotheads regained some wh he orders him back. we should not provoke anything. lee's expectation was we're going to work this out. we had this disruption and secession but after the hot heads had regained some coolness, we'll all get together and there will be a reconstruction. that is the first time the word reconstruction gets used. a month after going to richmond he is actually writing about maybe i should resign. just give this up and try to go back to being neutral. by that point it was much too late. federal forces already occ

and when virginia was different, he was obliged to follow virginia into the confederacy.ne was he? hello robert e lee was born onto northern neck of virginia in 1807, he had grown up in alexandria, which was then part of the district of columbia. alexandria and northern virginia would only be retro seated in virginia in the 1830s long after left. most of his life thereafter they lived in other places. in georgia, st. louis, baltimore and new york city as an engineer. his father had been politically a federalist. though married into one of the foremost families of virginia, the cost of arlington, arlington overlooked facing the national capitol, not virginia. his in-laws allies the nation first of state loyalty "afterwards". we could not more in 18612 factors. first, harry lee for all of his revolutionary fame had been our clock husband and father and left family when robert was only six years old. the shadow harry cast over the lee name was one of robert struggles to redeem the broad street of perfectionism in his behavior. robert also yearned to briefly of his father's r

it's running between the mountains in west virginia and along the creek, and that is where the base of the priest who started this whole story in this book over oxycontin, it is very very small and very rural. >> 12,012,000,000 oxycontin it in a town of 30 presidents arrived. >> it really raised alert suite actually and report to unseal some documents. this modified complaint filed in circuit court case that the state is the distributors as virginia versus the drug distributors and these are companies that ship the opioids from factories like f pretty far to pharmacies and so, their this whole case of this is being argued under seal hidden away from the public and they had when the early ultimately prevailed in part, we started to see these big numbers, main how is it possible that in three years, the community of near mud lick, called kermit, could absorb 12 million opioids, and kermit, west virginia and is just nott possible and what happening as people are driving from all over from kentucky, from ohio, north carolina and even as far away as florida to come to west virginia to buy p

it was part of virginia and when virginia left west virginia didn't exist so there was an ordinance of secession so people can go back there. west virginia don't like the sound of this. 18,000 confederates who fought for the confederacy. this is going to be really problematical. >> host: they left the succeeding state and are returning to a loyalist state. >> guest: what happens if they are paroled, pardoned, granted citizenship back and then now they are a voting block? what is going to play out then? and why do we want these disloyal men back in our midst? one thing to send confederates home to state that seceded when the vast majority of the population supported the confederacy. it is another system to send them to places there aren't wanted and it becomes clear in the summer of 65. >> host: i will tell you this. this happens all the time and we should be getting used to it in a house divided. somewhere in the deck of 10 minutes left in the interview everybody watching suddenly gets ah hah! now i have a question! i love questions, i read them to myself later but let's go to the folk

it was not even as focused as virginia. connect the dots in virginia. terry mcauliffe's entire campaign. john: 20% of the people who voted for youngkin that a disapproval of trump area why? they said that this guy was not trump. karen: you think you will have a set of accomplishments to sell. how will democrats play defense on some issues we saw in virginia? critical race theory has become a code phrase. yes, it is not in the curriculum for third-graders in virginia. but, it struck a resident mcauliffe did not seem to understand. how are you going to defend that? and, immigration, and all of these. we know the playbook. immigration and all of these. we know the playbook. john: we have things we want to do for people and they use which issues. -- wage issues -- wedge issues. they hit us on defund the police, joe biden said i do not believe in defunding the police. are you going to ways -- race taxes -- raise taxes? the problem in virginia, it was at the candidate themselves said i did not think that parents should have a say in what teachers teach. you l

west virginia or the country? sen.i couldn't believe -- i was very blessed with having good support from republicans, democrats, independents. i never got the far right or far left. i can understand that. we never ran our country or our states or politics from the far left or far right. i gave a speech one day the , first time we came back off covid to bethany college. their graduation, a beautiful little college in northern west virginia. i walked on the stage. they gave me a speech. i have good people who work with me. what do i say? you have been cloistered in for one year. and i had nothing on paper or nothing in my mind i was going to say as i walked to the podium. i'm thinking, man i don't know , what to say. i walked up and i apologized. i am sorry. i've been radicalized. they looked at me and i don't know how that came out that way. i said, i have been radicalized. i said, your grandparents have been radicalized. our generation was radicalized because we don't understand what is going on. you understand? i neve

it was part of virginia and when virginia left, west virginia didn't exist so there wasn't ordinance of succession, so people can go back there. loyal west virginians do not like the sound of this. about 18,000 confederates or people from west virginia who fought for the confederacy. and this is going to be really problematical. >> right. these men left a seceding state and they are going return to a loyal state. >> right. so what happens if they are paroled and perhaps pardoned, granted their citizenship back, and then now they are a voting bloc. what is going to play out then? >> -- and charleston and all these places. >> yeah. and why do we want these disloyal men back in our midst. it is one thing to send confederates home to states that seceded where the vast majority of the population supported the confederacy. it is another to send them home to places where they aren't wanted and that becomes very clear in the summer of '65. >> yeah. >> i'll tell you this, professor janney. and this happens all the time. and we should be getting used to it in a house divided. somewhere around

west virginia becomes its own unique case, because grant -- it was part of virginia, and when virginia west virginia did not exist. loyal west virginians do not like the sound of this. about 18,000 confederate, or people from west virginia, that for the confederacy. this is going to be very problematic. >> these men left. and they are going to return to a loyalist state. >> right. so what happens if they are paroled, and perhaps granted their citizenship back, and now they are of voting bloc? what is going to play all done? why would we want these disloyal men back in our mix? one thing, -- where the vast majority of the population -- it is another system where they are not wanted and that becomes very clear in the summer of 65. >> okay. this is professor janney, this happens all the time, we should be getting used to it in a house divided. somewhere around the point of ten minutes left in the interview, everybody watching, they say now i have a question! so, i am going to set my -- i have great questions, i love to read my questions, i will read them to myself later. let's leap back o

west virginia.oe manchin does. host: why did you support his position on this build back better act? let's hear from anthony, democrats line. caller: i think future president mention wants to become president. it is ridiculous that the part of the country he represents is the poorest part of the country and nobody listens to the point you brought up earlier, that he makes money off of fossil fuels. to the people in this country who believe we need to have coal , the coal industry, if you look it up, the peak of the coal industry was in 1914 at the beginning of world war i. we only have 60,000 to 70 thousand coal workers. why is it important? it is ridiculous that this country will not spend any money on people -- on poor people but do not have any problem spending $2 trillion on rich people who sit back and do not pay taxes. >> do you think that democrats have to rework the current version of build back better? ? to get support -- better to get support? caller: joe manchin is not going to vote for t

june 27, pope will soon clement the army of virginia. lincoln has chosen pope for political purposes, not for his battlefield abilities. lincoln is not at this time ready to relieve general mcclellan. his other factors are going into this decision, secretary chase and edwin stanton have chosen pope because he will fight a hard relentless contest unsparing of southern populace especially in virginia. chase argues to lincoln and stanton about bringing him east and giving command primarily on the ground of policy and doing so with patronage. stanton told objective for pope is to humiliate mcclellan. imagine them placed in a situation you told your commanding officers this is not the command for me, it will not be successful. being placed in this position with sub context and minds and now you are expected to be successful on it. pope premieres again and says i just don't want this position, send me back west but the question comes in at this moment for historical debate, who else would be the right fit at this moment? can administration nee

why did west virginia?e people are confused by that. >> in a nutshell they didn't think they'd get enough numbers from the national settlement. i've seen questions of 400 million from the national settlement and they think the state deserves more than that, and i think the people in the state feel the same way. we've got basically three different things going on. as you mentioned mdl part of a $26 billion settlement that's on the table and that's been moving forward. i think about 40 states have signed onto that and what they're doing now is working on the city's and the county to also sign up and i think they have two or three months to do that and then we have a bending case, capital huntington, huntington is the second largest state in west virginia. and that has concluded and they're waiting for a judge to make a decision. there's also something called the mass litigation panel, which is most of these other cities, 60-plus cities and towns and counties and school board, they're separate from the mdl. bu

it starts out in the fields of west virginia. a coalminer die seven oxycontin overdose. it explains the title. the aaron brockovich type of character. she decides not becoming another statistic. she connects with a lawyer. back to when she was arrested on drug conspiracy charges. the two of them get together and they first off go against the doctor that describes oxycontin. then they file against the pharmacy and then they go to other pharmacies. .... .... there. in the question where are all these painkillers coming from she did know if they're coming from gps or express or the united states postal service, she actually took it upon herself to get in the car and follow some of the delivery checks and came around the county and she had the license >> and they were traced to accompany which turned out is one of the biggest opioid it distributors in the country and from there, and goes up and up and up the supply chain and now there's is kind of, the power ol news reporting, in particular, watchdog reporting, my stories started with a new attorney general elected and had s

on june 27th, pope will soon command the army of virginia. lincoln has chosen pope for political purposes, not for his battlefield abilities. lincoln is also not at this time ready to relieve general mcclelland. there are other factors going into this decision. secretary chase and others have chosen pope because he will fight a hard, relentless contest, unsparing of southern populist especially in virginia. chases arguing to lincoln and stanton about this command, primarily on the grounds of policy and patronage. the stanton sole objective for pope is to humiliate mclelland. imagine being placed in the situation, you told the commanding officers, this is not the command for me. it will not be successful. and being placed in this position with all these sub contexts in mind, you are now expected to be successful on it. pope him yours again and says, i just don't want this position. send me back out west. whether question comes in at this moment for historical debate, who else would be the right fit at this moment? the lincoln administration ne

eric i who won a pulitzer prize for his reporting on opioids at mayo and now a reporter in west virginia and the author a coal country fight against the drug companies that develop the opioid epidemic. patrick, let me start with you in your devastating, absolutely devastating portrait of the family and their role in that opioid epidemic. can you give us a brief description of empire of pain and tell us what led you to write this book. >> absolutely first of i'm really humbled and honored to share a panel with the two of you and who have written such amazing stuff on this issue, the opioid crisis is so big as an issue that i feel different parts of it have been worked over by people in different ways there's great books on opioid crisis i wanted to look closely at the perpetrators so i was very interested in the family who owned purdue pharma connecticut pharmaceutical company that a lot of people with the tip of this. of the crisis the drug that started this on the road to where we are today. it is not in opioid crisis per se it's a broad look of three generations of the families of fami

and three, protect the virginia central railroad. by accomplishing these objectives and fighting the rebel rail rink, lincoln and stanton hope it would compel the confederates around washington d.c. and opposite richmond and opposite mcclellan's army, that they would pull away and ease mcclellan's way in the city of richmond. he tells pope at that moment, he's been called east to carry out these ubjktives. it's at this point stanton stops talking and they just look at each other. there's a long, awkward silence. stanton finally says to pope, general, you don't seem to approve the arrangements i have outlined for you. pope responds, mr. secretary i entirely concur in the wisdom of concentrating the widely scattered forces in front of washington and using them generally, as you propose but i do not view, with any favor, the proposition to place me in command of them. the title of tonight's presentation is john pope's reluctant rise. he's been doing everything he can to rise through the ranks but now he's saying i don't want this comman

he wants us all to be like his state, west virginia.our reaction when you first saw that? >> i think my first reaction was bette who? i don't recall anything she has done too significant here in the last little bit. but, you know, i don't think a lot of west virginians are losing sleep over it. only thing lose sleep over is getting up early and heading tout work. ashley: brooke, first off a girl from a long line of coal minors on both sides of my family i commend you for what you do. i do want to talk about joe manchin for a second. you said that you agree with the opposition to the bbb legislation and it is something the majority of people in west virginia ask for but do you think that perhaps he is just doing this to get reelected because it seems like it might have been a little bit of a different situation when president trump was in office. >> absolutely. i may be a little jaded on the subject. i actually ran for senator manchin's seat back it in 2018. you are looking at a guy who spent four plus years opposing the people of this s

manchin is representing the people of west virginia.cnn do a poll and you ask the people of west virginia whether or not they want to lower the cost of prescription drugs. you ask them whether they want to expand medicare, to cover dental, hearing and eye glasses. you ask them whether they want to continue the $300 payment to help working parents in these very difficult times bring up their kids with dignity. ask them if they want to deal with climate change. on all issues i suspect people like west virginia like every other state will say do the right thing for working families. i told manchin i'll pay for the damned poll in west virginia. see how the people of west virginia feel >> is there a strategy foorward a way to pass part of the legislation piecemeal, assuming joe manchin is one of 51 who vote against it? >> the problem you need 60 votes, no support from republicans to pass standing legislation. so it has to be done through reconciliation. so i haven't thought about that yet. but all i do know is that the dividing line in this

lincoln and stanton have been focusing on virginia.n hey, a private secretary, comes back and tells lincoln that this war is growing more serious. they need help. if pope has lost confidence in lincoln and stanton, as he is being vanished out west, why would you send someone so inept that was defeated at second manassas? to be in charge of a war by themselves? in minnesota? mcclelland goes back to new jersey, not a whole lot going on there. [laughs] they send this guy to another theater of the war. and pope thrives once again. he handles the dakota war of 1862 with brilliance. he will continue to have his star rise throughout the rest of 1863 into 1864. he continues to impress all of his superiors to the point that, as the opening movements of the opening overland campaign begin, pope congratulates grant and councils grant on how to deal with the situation in the west. it does not sound like someone who has lost faith and confidence from the higher echelons of the military or lincoln administration. over the next years, pope is going t

he will wage a new style of war fair in 1862 in virginia. when pope finally gets command, he's commanding from washington dc. he's made an arrangement with lincoln, wants mclelland removed from command, lincoln tells him nope, not ready to remove him from command so make a compromise. pope says if you relieve mclelland from command, why don't you bring my partner from the west, lincoln agrees but there's a catch to that compromise. until hallock gets here, you are defacto military adviser. he has to prepare the army and prepare for campaign while he is stuck in washington dc. as he prepares for the second manasis campaign, as it becomes known, the objectives for the campaign he is given are very limited. first objective for this developing campaign for the army of virginia, to cover washington dc. number two, oppose and delay the confederate advance to the last extremity to allow the army of potomick make their way to alexandra, fredericksburg, and army of virginia. pope is to attack the railroad lines in charlottesville, allow lee to send r

people that live there and they will not be reading your book but it is a typical hollow in west virginia right in between the mountains that dad is where it started this whole book off it's very small and very rural. >> at what point did 12 million oxycontin pills arriving in the town of 30 residents raise alerts? >> with those data drug distributors like purdue pharma and the pharmacies. and then the whole case would be argued under seal away from the public. how is in three years a community of and they could have a use of 12 million opioids. w from kentucky and ohio to even as far away as florida to buy prescription opioids. mostly hydrocodone but also oxycontin as well. host: how many people got temporarily rich? >> theret: is a number of doctors and pharmacists and those that are occurred here and when it is making close to $7 million per year add a tiny pharmacy. so doesn't likee the right aid or walgreens. and then raking and close to $7 million per year. other pharmacist in the same boat and t then the cash only run by a doctor's they also made millions as well. >> are these phar

it starts out in the southern fields of west virginia where a coalminer dies of an oxycontin overdose then his sister who is like this aaron brockovich type of character and decides she's not going to let her brother become another statistic. she's going to avenge his death and connects with a lawyer she had known for years when she was arrested on drug conspiracy charges. the two ofr them first file against the pharmacy and then they go to other pharmacies but it doesn't stop there. where do all these painkillers come from, she didn't know if they were coming from fed express or the postal service so she took it upon herself to get in the car and follow some of the delivery trucks that came around and had the license plate traced to a place called cardinal health. and from there, again they go up the supply chain and there's kind of a subplot to the power of local news reporting, in particular watchdog reporting. dmy story talked about the general elected and had the strongties to the pharmaceutical distributors and he inherited a loss filed by his predecessor. to sum it up, it took

west virginia's covid czar dr. clay marsh has heard it all. dr.arsh: for the people that are worried about the speed of the messenger rna vaccines, these are among the safest and by far the most effective vaccines that have ever been produced. julia: about 10 months ago, marsh's home state was leading the nation in getting shots in arms, driven by the urgency to protect the state's aging population. with one in five residents over 64, marsh gave all pharmacies , big and small, the greenlight to give shots as soon as the vaccines were available. lynne fruth: i know that it is making a difference in this community. julia: pharmacy owner lynne fruth says that drove vaccination rates up at first. lynne fruth: i like to say we're first to worst as far as the vaccine. the state did a phenomenal job rolling out the initial vaccine. julia: which month did you see a visible downtick? lynne fruth: in may, it just dropped off a cliff. julia: the rush ended when every willing taker had been vaccinated. now, the focus is on the booster shots. >> you just got y

virginia makes for that was. and the other was scotland and england and i think the other was wales. the point was we are just under the king and our assembly should be equivalent to parliament. that is the other places they tried to come down. one point is franklin's argument and i agree in the british parliament that didn't fly for practical reasons pre-but the argument can be okay we are each equivalent of england just as scotland. just like scotland before the union of 1707 where scotland had its own parliament but under the king or they would often say hanover was directly under the king. the king was a director of hanover and he was a ruler there. let's be like that. and as you're pointing out when they had to transfer sovereignty and they had a very difficult idea of exploiting sovereignty that's gonna be a problem on the constitution. had he split sovereignty between the states and the central government. the only thing if we own them consensually view ourselves as equivalent of scotland before 1707 or as

>> that he'd been in virginia all day. >> you were in virginia receiving this call, huh?inutes away from my apartment. and he goes, "doug your wife's missing.” and my first reaction is -- is my wife pulling something? and i said, "whoa, by missing, are you saying that she's -- is she just missing from the house? or is she -- or is she missing -- what's going on? fill me in.” he goes, "i can't do that at this time. where were you today?” >> he gave me a couple of locations where he was to support that he was in virginia. one of those being at his lawyer's office in newport news, virginia. >> and he said, "okay. well, can your lawyer verify?” i go, "no, my lawyer wasn't there when i went in. it was just two secretaries.” >> reporter: detective scott asked the local fbi to run down doug's story, and agents did. it checked out. two women on the lawyer's staff confirmed it. they said they saw him come in that day. >> a bit shocking when they said, well, we've checked it out and he has an alibi. >> reporter: so what were the investigators to do? the parents were adamant in thei

mark: let's stop all these racist virginia voters? what kind of a bigot is this, he appears regularly on msnbc and elsewhere, why would a major corporation podcast which owns nbc and msnbc put a bigot like this, that's my opinion on television to spread hate. the racist voters of virginia, you see how he dehumanizes every single person who voted they could be black, red, brown, albino, whatever it is, if you voted the wrong way and voted against the marxist agenda you were obviously erases. this person is on television constantly. >> as governor they elected vincent sears as lieutenant governor shall be the first african-american woman to be elected statewide in virginia history by the wall street journal, nice try. invoking the name of lieutenant governor winston sears doesn't prove wrong of the role of race in the virginia governor's election. not relief. >> voting for someone black does not grant absolution from racism were being motivated. mark: i don't think people voted for winston sears because they wanted absolution about anyt

if i can't go home and explain it to the people of west virginia, i can't vote for it. and i cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation. i just can't. i've tried everything humanly possible. i can't get there. >> you're done, this is a no? >> this is a no. on this legislation. i have tried everything i know to do. >> his comments have sent shockwaves through capitol hill and beyond as reaction has been pouring in. earlier today multiple progressive lawmakers responded to senator manchin. >> there are six of us who have been saying this all along. we have been saying this for weeks that this would happen. >> not a huge shock, but i have caveat that with it's not over yet. >> one person that will hold up assistance to the american people is absolutely disgusting and amazing to me. if he wants to be that person that will stand up before the american people and deny assistance to the people of this country, put the bill up on the floor and let him vote it up or down. >> joining us now. welcome all. josh, you first here. is the build back better act effectively d

he can turn the tide of the campaign on the virginia peninsula. all these things that pope is fighting with begin to change them. they weigh on them. what a great reputation he has will say this about pope's challenges in august 4th. how do they expect pope to beat with an inferior force the veterans of jackson. i would breathe again. several days into the campaign, the defeated cedar mountain and pulling back surrendered the initiative to robert e. lee. he will seize that initiative immediately and will begin to capitalize on all that it will provide him. as it continues to unfold, the army of virginia plummets further. general orders number five, off the land has gotten way out of hand. damaging the morale to the men in the ranks because the army is hungry when pope takes command, he fires a very intelligent fellow by the name of herman halls. by the time the army is almost staffering to death, he comes crawling back asking him to please come back. by the middle of the month of august, pope is beginning to learn that lee's objectives are set upo

so when you have bette midler and attacking west virginia, west virginia understands that build back better has a slew of green new deal provisions that kills energy that kills west virginia jobs and raises their taxes. but if i can make one other point on the race issue, whether you're socialism or communism, massive debt or inflation, it doesn't care about the pigment of your skin, it affects all of us, the same. if you go to venezuela or cuba, you can have people with more pigment and they're getting destroyed by this policy. they destroy families and economies equally. that's why good smart reup pubs are standing up and pushing back. thank god for joe manchin saying, listen, this will destroy the american dream, i don't care if you're poor, rich, black, or man or woman, it's going to kill us all. i'm going to say no to it. good for him. >> it wasn't just a racial smear. it's about calling these voters dumb. strung out on drugs, poor. they don't know any better. so we have to rescue them. this is what they really feel about voters. >> listen, the truth will always be that people i

inlet and is virginia. they could've been the third or the fourth but the point was virginia's the first colony. was an independent part of scotland. and then i think the other and then our assembly should be equivalent of parliament. and then with franklin's argument. in the 17 oh seven. or that he had royalty let's do it like that. and that's why when they have to transfer sovereignty and the difficult idea, that will be a problem in the constitution through the central government the idea so conceptually is the equivalent of scotland before. and the only person is the king. and that's from the declaration of independence much before this they have evidence against parliament or all the other pamphlets or those writings by a hamilton or jefferson earlier. then they have theen sovereignty problemg but now the king suddenly who is sovereign? because of each colony to the king we don't have the king we don't haveer sovereignty. and that iste what i view as between that which was 1782 that was the most import

virginia left west virginia does not exist other was necessary so people can go back there. and many west virginians do not like the sound of this, 18000 confederates joined the confederacy and this is going to be problematic. >> and they're going to avoid this. >> right i want companies if they are paroled and granted their citizen ship back and then now there - what will play out then and why do we want these men back in our midst. one thing to santa confederates, to a space where the vast majority of thee population simply as the confederacy and this is another thing to send them to places where they're not wanted in the becomes very clear in the summer of 65. >> this happens all of the time and we should be getting a suit in a house divided but somewhere around the point of ten minutes left in the interview and everybody is watching. [inaudible]. and we have a question. [applause] and so understand, i've a great question and i will read them to my self later but let's go to the folks watching on facebook life and there are quick questions over here. it depends on how muc