virginia. i just want to give you a lower part because you will find this of this paper. russellhenderson's record over the last 12 years, 13 years is spotless. he has been going to college in prison, and i have seen his grades and they're straight days. he has been working in prison. here is someone who has to life sentences. he is classified as medium security, which is virtually unheard of for someone convicted of these type of -- types of crime. i mention this because as a gay man the way in which this case ultimately resolve itself, there was politics involved, and it is easier to see this now. i don't mean to second-guess, but what i want to say is, the tragedy that happened here was not just matthew. a was a horrible crime here, here's a person, i can tell you as a gay man if i thought russell anderson was somewhat like or hate gay people i would not be visiting him. i visited him in prison three of four times a year. i have interviewed deputy wardens to my interview social workers that have that any group, and i will say i have had prison administrators say to me, this yo