so now we'll move ahead to virginia woolf, okay, and i really stumbled on to virginia woolf. it's just amazing to think in the late 1970s i had not read virginia woolf. but an undergraduate, i was teaching, and an undergraduate came to me and asked me to do a tutorial with her reading through the whole of the virginia woolf book and i was completely blown away. and what i was blown away by more than anything, and this goes to what jeff was talking about this morning was the room with one folder i like the novels. i like the light has been i could understand what they were about. but a room of one's own really spoke to me. it was about women in fiction and why women did not have the authority to be writers. and that addressed very directly an issue we would say that i had. and i found it deeply personal, deeply inspiring. and in the light of that essay, taking seriously her feminism, because it was i thought very important to her, i read the novel and read them. and what turned out to be a slightly different way from other people because i was interested in this, in the issue

. >> stahl: who's afraid of virginia woolf?oodwin: yeah. >> "lincoln": for everyone's god damn sake, i should've clapped in the madhouse. >> "mary todd lincoln": then do it. do it. don't you threaten me, you do it this time. lock me away. >> stahl: when the movie starts, their second child has already died, willie. and she has been in the deepest of mourning. as i had heard, she basically closeted herself upstairs in the white house. and is this true, doris, stopped mothering the younger child, tad? >> goodwin: the most terrible thing that mary did after willie died was she couldn't bear being with tad, her youngest son, because he reminded her of willie's absence. it's as if both willie and tad died after willie died. lincoln had to become both mother and father to tad after mary turned away. and he had to take over not only the country, in leading the country, but take over that little kid at the same time. what you see are the kinds of gestures that are so loving-- when he lies down next to him in the fireplace, when he carr

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