that was a firm with ties to the russian oligarch, virk vikto viktor vekkelberg. >> michael didn't gethis services were all about. we don't have all the facts, but it certainly, as brian said, it doesn't smell good and it doesn't look pretty and it certainly suggests some kind of shake down. how this will all turn out, i don't know at this point. but it's ugly. >> yeah. what do you think about this, laura? >> well, you know, we really are seeing the under belly of what it means to pay for play in washington, d.c., and while most people think to themselves, there's got to be laws against this concept of being able to have paid access to decision makers, to elected officials, to policy makers, what we're finding is there is a very, very thick line between pay for play and apparently bribery. and although the two can somehow merge in the future in some criminal activity, we're finding there's really a lot of tolerance for this sort of behavior. the most interesting thing about the issue with the russian oligarch is he was one of the two men that was stopped when he came onto american soil