with the scientific director of the institute of extrusion of the russian academy of sciences, vitaly naumkin. vitaly vyacheslavovich, hello, thank you for taking the time, of course, now from every iron, as they say. there is a conversation about the middle east conflict, it directly reminds me of my childhood, when we had these all-union radio repeaters on our refrigerators in the soviet union, and there was constantly hama, well, not hamas, there are beirut, arabs, israel, war and so on , so many years have passed and nothing has changed, on the contrary, the situation is only getting worse, unfortunately, how do you see the reason for the current deterioration? well, strictly speaking, there is nothing surprising here, the reason for the aggravation, in my opinion, only the lazy did not say a lot about it, it was expected, aggravation occurs periodically, this time , given that, i think, let's start with the palestinians that the palestinians have lost all hope that they will somehow... national rights, which first of all should consist in the fact that, in accordance with the decisions o