and i will remind our viewers that my interlocutor was vitaly nemylostivy, the head of the all-ukrainian of employers of machine builders of ukraine. so which ones? the conclusions are the technological vision expressed by general zaluzhnyk, which involves the creation of new approaches due to a significant number of robotic platforms of various purposes, new approaches to their application in order to reduce the burden on personnel, which is lacking now on the front line, but there are everyday needs in terms of the production of armored vehicles, ammunition, other things, some of which can be made by our domestic defense industry, but there are also certain disadvantages associated with the lack of... long-term orders that do not allow for the purchase of equipment, the scaling of products at the expense of this equipment, and this also creates challenges for our defense industry to be strengthened precisely at the expense of our own capabilities, i think that all these challenges should be taken into account and the ministry of defense, and the general staff, and other bodies, so that