enlightening us this morning, vito echevarria, the journalist with the "cuba standard" online publication, antonio nadal, emeritus professor there at brooklyn college, and his good friend samuel farber, also a professor emeritus and a book author, as well. we cannot discuss the trip without talking about the meeting between the pope and fidel. you saw the pictures. we hadn't seen pictures or video of fidel in quite some time. your thoughts on that meeting. >> yeah, basically that definitely was symbolic, the mere fact that the two were in the same room together discussing the issues of the day affecting the local people in cuba. i'm sure fidel did mention to the pope the fact that both he and his brother ra`l actually went to prep school, a place called colegio de dolores, in santiago de cuba... >> in santiago, right. >> ...you know, where much of the country's elite basically went to school before the revolution. >> but we've pointed out that fidel and ra`l, who joked about returning to the catholic church or becoming catholic -- atheists, and here they are meeting with one of the holies