. >> this would be instead of in vitro fertilization. >> yes, it has all kinds of problems. it is expensive. it is not particularly healthy. there are some real health risks, real serious moral issues with it. and natprotechnology is very effective. >> are the couples pretty receptive for the knowledge about nfp when they are in marriage prep? >> yes, surprising. a lot of them have never heard of it. almost everyone has heard of the rhythm method. a lot of them are surprised to find out that there is something up to date. my dad is a doctor, my mom is a nurse. my degree is in biocreme industry. i like talking about the science. you know, a lot of problems with hormonal birth control and it is damaging the water fly. so nothing to deal with there. >> any other big areas that you get into when you are doing the marriage preparation or is it mostly things like that? >> things like finances or sexuality. >> oh, fan? >> we should have you come in and do that. it is funny. they all say in the evaluations we want more on finances. thing they want us to they would them what stocks t

before your mind goes crazy with that, we're in an operating room when a couple undergoes in vitro fertilization. >> before that, the rapidly changing situation in nairobi where it's moved into a fourth day. let's get right to ron allen with the latest. ron, good morning to you. >> good morning to you, matt. yes, the siege may not be completely over. we heard a couple of loud explosions this morning and gunfire coming from the mall back there. a top kenyan official continues to insist that u.s. citizens were among the gunmen involved in the attack. this morning, kenyan soldiers still working to secure the besieged mall still seemed to encounter more resistance. they appeared to carry a body bag from the building and in the past few hours, al-shabab, the militant group that claimed responsibility for the attack said their fighters are still holding their ground, following the effort to end the siege that began saturday. the government said it was in full control of the situation combing the four-story mall from floor to floor to make sure it's safe. they believe all hostages are released adding t

pregnancy rate. >> he is an expert and pioneer in something known as ivf. >> it's short for in vitro fertilizationy means fertilization takes place in a laboratory dish. >> the pregnancy will implant there. >> reporter: 33-year-old jessica menkhausen and her fiancee derek manion are excited about having a baby together. jessica tried for nine years to have a baby and had almost given up on her dream of motherhood. >> it took years to get over it. i was glad when we met dr. silver. he gave us so much hope. >> hi, jessica. >> reporter: she has been undergoing pretreatment for four weeks now injecting hormones and getting regular blood work. >> hopefully these children know one day when we show them this how much we wanted them. >> reporter: and today, news that the medicine has worked. jessica's ovaries produced a large number of follicles that house the eggs that will be fertilized with derek's sperm. >> that count gives us an indication of how many egs you're going to have. it's a huge count. >> reporter: the couple put off wedding plans for next year citing the cost of ivf which is 12 to 17,000 w

can we offer a real bronze product which doesn't have in vitro fertilization, doesn't take care of youcer. we need the ability to shop and choose. >> can any of the providers exit the providing space because it gets down to where they say i'm going to do something else? >> oh, the exiting is going on. >> isn't that's what's going to happen? >> we merge. and what's going on right now is record mergers of hospitals you've seen some of the public hospital chains exit and merge with each other. the nonprofits selling to the profits. it's the -- the dinosaurs are mating as the icecaps melt. >> you're adding all this demand to the system. >> the complexity, it's filing your taxes every time you see a patient. >> economics 101, the supply goes down, it gets harder to get what you want. the "new york times" copped to it the other day and how hard it's going to be. >> two things go on. one, is hospitals try to collude to get prices up so they don't die. who could blame them? that's one thing the government's watching. >> do you think the government's really watching? >> oh, yeah, because it's t