. ♪ ♪ vivek: i am vivek ramaswamy, i am a trader to my class.how the elite business world works, i have seen it first hand. from wall street to silicon valley, elite academia to big pharma, i got my first job out of college before the 2008 financial crisis here in new york city, in my new book, "woke inc.," i reveal the truth about the invisible new force at work in the highest ranks of corporate america. >> you pretend like you care about something other than profit and power. precisely to gain more of each. all magicians, master of the art of distraction. today a business titans promote progressive social values, their tactics are more dangerous for america than those of older robber "barron's," do go smoke screen expands power over the market and every other aspect of our lives, as young 21st century capitalist, the thing i was supposed to do was shut up and play along, wear hipster clothes, applaud diversity and inclusion. and after flying on a private jet to a fancy ski town, not a bad life. but the most important part of the trick was to s

gerry: i'm back with vivek ramaswamy talking about his new book woke inc.ica's social justice. i started economic and you went to business school you founded your own company, it's pretty clear what companies are supposed to do, you had owners of companies and managers of companies and they were accountable to the owners and everything from adam smith in the success of capitalism, it is the pursuit of profit in apprising opportunities, that is the way in which companies grow it's a capitalism that is lifted billions of people literally out of poverty around the world, how do we go from companies doing what they do very, very well between profit like the situation we have today and it's their obligation of their right to weigh in on every single political issue. >> i love capitalism but i also learned to be wary of the fact when i got my first job in the fall of 2007 before the 2008 financial crisis weary of capitalism when he gets in your mingle with politics after did the 2008 crisis. that's when the story began, after the way crisis corporations are the e

woke inc., vivek ramaswamy, make sure there is also a fox nation special called "woke inc."e america you don't want to miss that vivek, good to see you. >> thank you, will. >> will: tonight go anywhere. abby hornacek is here and she is on the clock next. ♪ ♪ lled too exclusive. because we only serve those who honorably served. all ranks, all branches, and their families. are we still exclusive? absolutely. and that's exactly why you should join. that's a nice truck. yeah, it's the chevy silverado. check out this multi-flex tailgate. multi-flex, huh? wow. it becomes a step. mom, dad's flexing again. that's not all. you can extend the bed for longer stuff. is he still... still flexing. that's right! and, it becomes a workspace... you can put your laptop here. i'm sending an imaginay email. hey dad, dinner! hey! look who stopped by daddy's office. wait, you work here? the chevy silverado with the available multi-flex tailgate. find new flexibility. find new roads. chevrolet. age-related macular degeneration may lead to severe vision loss, so the national eye institute did 20 ye

joining me now, vivek ramaswamy, entrepreneur and author of woke, incorporated.xtensively in the book. i think a lot of this dates back to the 2008 financial crisis when after that corporations were the bad guys in the eyes of the old left. but there was a new opportunity with the rise of a new woke progressive left. to be able to say we can actually go from being the bad guys to being the good guys if we say the right things about racial diversity, about racial inequity and guess what, financial firms especially like bank of america, like american express, jumped on that opportunity. they were happy to use their money and lend legitimacy to the woke movement. they used that to put occupy wall street up for adoption and the trade has worked really well for them. if you're wall street, occupy wall street is a pretty tough pill to swallow. the new diversity agenda under the woke banners, that's a pretty easy pill to swallow. that's how they were able to make that trade and it worked out well for them to deflect regulatory accountability, to deflect public scrutiny,

lightning round, the author of that column of the brand-new book just out this week, "woke inc," vivek ramaswamyu back. >> good to see you. >> shannon: tell us more. why do you think this president has demonstrated through his rhetoric that he may not have been the threat the taliban needs to seem to be? >> there is exactly one thing that would've prevented the catastrophe from unfolding this week in afghanistan and it was if the taliban believed that the u.s. was going use extreme force, possible annihilation or decimation in response to their bad behavior of reneging on their prior agreements, i don't think they would've gone for kabul. the new president joe biden wasn't that leader because he never issued that threat and even he believed he didn't have the moral standing to follow through because he is obsessed with self criticism of the united states. when you assess overstuffed criticism, you lack the moral standing as the united states. that's why we have the disaster that we did. >> shannon: i want to talk about social media. there's been a lot made of the fact there's many taliban linked

in the hot seat, we have vivek ramaswamy. thousands of americans are stranded in afghanistan at this hour. fox news have been told that taliban fighters have established checkpoints throughout kabul and the airport. we are told that some taliban people have been eating and whipping people as they arrive. meanwhile, this was outside of the airport this morning. green smoke being released on crowds desperate to free out of the country and yesterday, a man outside of the airport kicked in the face as we get reports of 17 people injured this morning and his stampede to the airport. we're also getting this to bring video of the television violently breaking up the protest. gunshots rang out. one person has reportedly been killed and six others wounded. amid the chaos, please for president biden to help those who stood side-by-side with the americans against the taliban. >> pressed a button or those with power, please help those on the streets. the kids are not deserving less. they helped you, they helped americans, they help the w

so phil, vivek ramaswamy wrote in his book "woke, inc.," that esg is.g wrong. >> true esg company versus a green walker. green washer is pretending to be an esg company to pretend to create a halo effect. when you look at the achievement of the green washer, it didn't really move the needle much and the reality is they didn't move the needle much. a true esg company is going to be able to do well financially and make a contribution to society. so the key is to draw that distinction between the real company and the green washers. charles: so let's talk about that money part you just brought up. investing in the woke era hasn't necessarily been great, not this year. consider solar down, coal down a lot. meantime hot esg plays like honest corp., they have been crushed. last year the harvard review had a headline, why esg investors are happy to settle for lower returns. how true is that? >> we disagree. if you do right by the stakeholder you will do right by the shareholder. zoo when -- so when you look at investor he has a couple range of outcomes. he may

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vivek ramaswamy is with us today. good morning.ly one way that we could have prevented the catastrophe that unfolded this week. it was if the taliban perceived a credible threat of total annihilation. if they renegeed oh prior agreements they wouldn't have taken over kabul. they would not have gone for kabul. here is the problem. they knew president biden could never make good on that threat because he himself does not speak with a moral standing that allows him to use extraordinary force right when we need it most. he is obsessed with self-criticism of the united states. i think that's actually one of the things i write about in my book. the geopolitical implications of wokeism are many. one is when we're weak at home it begets weakness abroad. when we're weak abroad it prevents us from displaying strength when we need it more. >> dana: the president and his political team say people close to biden visualize a political scenario where afghanistan doesn't scare him. they would appreciate he withdraw forces after 20 years. political

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