so i plaud google for what they did. >> ifill: let me ask you this, vivek wadhwa, we knew the numbersen't good even though we didn't have actual numbers to put to it. why wasn't action taken before, is it just e terrible pressure. we know jesse jackson has been visiting these companies and telling them to straighten up and fly right s that what it takes? >> frankly, silicon valley is a boy's club. it's like a frat club run wild is what i often say. because you have young kids hiring other young kids. and they don't have the sensitivity that big companies do. they don't understand the point of diversity. they don't understand why they have to be inclusive and so on. so silicon valley has it's time for silicon valley to grow up and start behaving responsibleably. goog sell a wonderful can. i don't want to criticize them here because they are doing such good things however, with minorities and women being left out -- >> as you look at these numbers is the problem in the pipeline, you talk about the number of women and minorities getting these technical degrees, or is the problem in the w