. >> well, first of all, let me just say this all begins with my mother, vivian ayers, who decided that her children were not going to be scarred by racism, so if there was something that we wanted to do or someplace that we wanted to go and we were not allowed to go because of legal segregation, she would say, "well, we're not going to go there because that's a private club and we're not members of that club," and we'd say, "oh, okay." all right? >> hinojosa: okay, mom. >> and in the meantime, we tumbled in the living room. she'd move the furniture away and teach us to tumble. she'd bring all of our friends in off the street and teach us choral speech, she taught us to read music, she had literature, i mean, and there was john biggers and joseph mack and all these artists who were in our home all the time. so our world experience was not defined by legal segregation, and when your world experience is not defined by legal segregation, your understanding of yourself is broad, okay? so there i am, i've learned how to read, and i'm in the grocery store and there are two water fountains and