vivica a. fox? >> no, no. ally aware of much of his work before so, i just really thought, you know, he's got a big presense and he's a big guy. >> jimmy: you haven't seen the ma diaw movies? what's going on up in oregon? >> i don't know. not watching a lot of film. >> jimmy: oh, wow. you play a very crazy person named picasso. >> very bad guy. he's a serial killer and sometimes he collects a check for it. so, he likes to do it. he finds great enjoyment in it. >> jimmy: you torture people, you kill people, you do some scuba diving, as well. >> yes. that was the one sequence in the film that really made me nervous. i like to do all the stunts that they'll let me do. and there's this sequence where he enters a building through the water system and that was going to require scuba diving in, like, a two-foot pipe. and i'm a terrible swimmer, i mean -- i didn't learn to swim until very late in life. >> jimmy: how old were you? >> i was, like, 20, 21. >> jimmy: that is late in life. why? why so late? >> i grew up in