vivienne stern, a real pleasure having you on the show. t's start with this, because if we look at the numbers, let's be frank, they're not great. i mean, there's a decline in the number of graduate jobs being advertised. that's compared to last year. starting salary increases, they're well below inflation. vivienne, just how difficult of a time is it for people leaving university at the moment? well, i think you've got to take a short—term and a long—term view. i mean, the sort of broader economic conditions, i think there's a widespread consensus. we've got to get our economy moving again and creating jobs and growing. but there's absolutely no question at all when you look at the longer—term labour market needs, you know, we are going to need those graduates. we're going to need more graduates in the future than we've got now. so it's always difficult for graduates who emerge when the economy is, you know, performing less well than we'd like it to. i don't think we're, you know, perhaps in some of the positions we've had during previous