. >> vladimir kara-murza was an anti-putin activist, which he knew was a dangerous mission. and one day in may 2015, he learned just how dangerous. >> i went, within about 20 minutes, from feeling completely normal to feeling like a very sick man. i don't remember anything for the next month. >> he survived against all odds, only to recently fall deathly ill again. and again, he and others believe he was poisoned. >> it's death if you cross the putin regime. >> the most beautiful thing. i love innovation, i love competing. i hate my competitors. >> you hate your competitors? >> of course, i do. i want to beat them up. >> you want to make dannon

. >> vladimir kara-murza was an anti-putin activist, which he knew was a dangerous mission. one day in may 2015, he learned just how dangerous. >> i went, within about 20 minutes, from feeling completely normal to feeling like a very sick man. i don't remember anything for the next month. >> he survived against all odds, only to recently fall deathly ill again. and again, he and others believe he was poisoned. >> it's death if you cross the putin regime. >> the most beautiful thing. i love innovation, i love competing. i hate my competitors. >> you hate your competitors? >> of course, i do. i want to beat them up. >> you want to make dannon

you have vladimir kara-murza on your show. other people have died. mr.threatened often and people should be worried about their security without a question, especially him. >> has there been a softening of the united states government role in trying to protect those dissenterds and trying to keep russia on the straight and narrow when it comeso the way they treat the protesters? >> well, i was heart understaen a statement by the administration condemning these arrests. i know a lot of individuals looking for asylum in this country. they are seeking that. that's a good sign. what i don't know is what the president himself thinks, president trump. i've never heard him talk about democracy and human rights in any country, let alone russia. at the end of the day that's going to matter for signaling support or signaling to putin not to do the most dramatic, dishlgs violent measures against these protesters. >> michael mcfall, former u.s. ambassador to russia a thorn in the side to president putin while he was there which everyone let you forget for a moment.

you've had vladimir kara-murza on your show. he's testimony what can happen.er people have died. mr. navalny is threatened often with these, you know this green stuff that they throw in his face. and people should be worried about their security without a question, especially mr. navalny. >> has there been softening of the united states government's role in trying to protect those dissenters and trying to keep russia sort of on the straight and narrow when it comes to the way they treat political dissidents in protest? >> well, i was heartened to see there was a statement by the trump administration today condemning these arrests. that's a good sign. i also know of other individuals looking for asylum in this country. they are seeking that. that's a good sign. what i don't know is what the president himself thinks. president trump. i've never heard him talk about democracy and human rights in any country abroad let alone russia, and at the end of the day, that's what's going to really matter in terms of signaling for support or signalling to putin not to do th