and today our guest is people's artist of belarus vladimir gostyukhin vladimir vasilievich philosophert lukashenko, as a plus of his policy, noted the absence of oligarchs, let's listen to how he talked about it, for example, you do not allow the oligarchs to develop. and this is an ideological moment. we gave in russia and now we can't uproot it. she interferes with us at every stage, and i wanted to ask you the oligarchs, after all, they, well, in general, are not absolute evil, because vladimir gusinsky, as a financier, started the series truckers and if there weren’t gusinsky, there wouldn’t be your folk cinema so to speak, no. no, not quite like that. well, like this. well, i'll tell you well and modern art supported by roman abramovich well, in your opinion, the oligarchs are more useful, or, as the philosopher dugin says, the only harm for me is nonsense, absolutely pathological rejection of this so -called oligarchic world that has developed since the nineties. there, headed by gusinsky, the same berezovsky and others there, abramovich e, you understand, that same gusinsky ntv