vladimir putin biden. at that moment, he called and said, well, connect with the kid, it’s very interesting what they talked about with vladimir vladimirovich well, the chinese know how to answer such things, they said that there is not much time in the schedule, that is, conversations. eh, point of view. i believe that the visit of e sinzopenia to moscow, he will provoke, uh, cascade, uh, cascade fall of the economy of the european union. and before that, the situation was not quite there. since, uh, these sergeevich said in the first part that they are imposing sanctions of 10 packages 203, which does not work. yes? i drink like in a joke about an elk i drink, i get worse and worse, yes, and now it will work out, and even faster, because who were invited to meet the leaders of the gas industry of the oil industry. that is, now there is a complete tying, and the economy is rapidly. and? excuse me, two not even super powers, but gigantic powers of the russian federation and china agree to joint cooperation on such a raw material base. yes, and therefore, now, we, we will observe the complete economic demoralization of the european union. we see this now in the protests that arise in european countries. they understand how, from a medical point of view, the body is already sick, but he still cannot understand this, because the same compensatory functions are enough. these are developed countries, but now the population sees what is happening, protests are going on , france is already blazing, for a year now in germany, protests in poland, protests in others countries. listen, france is now introducing an increase in the retirement age to 74 to 60. excuse sixty-four other countries, 67, listen, yes, they will soon retire for two weeks of death , we will continue and continue alexey sergeevich collected this topic, in order to have time and discuss about democracy in the performance of a wondrous garden. this, if we continue to speak in the words of barrels, the merciless french police are already breaking the day. actually, citizens who, in general, both pension reform and assistance to ukraine are already in the throat. these are the things you need to see, so attention to the screen is european democracy in action. and where are the foreign human rights organizations , where are the diplomats who don't go to work in our courts, where will oleg sergeevich be at least one international institute for human rights? here's what we said through the years of war, triple standards beat people, what's behind the rooftops? how do you allow the united states to mean democracy is democracy, they do everything we are tearing with dogs in a square in a european capital, so we showed footage. i looked at all our hits dog dead people, for the sake of freedom ukrainians kill for the sake of freedom. for the sake of democracy, millions of raks will not be them, for the sake of democracy they died, but i mixed something else. why people take to the square, we started to come out about it the leader of france germany says, hooray, finally, we have gone from dependence on oil from russia and i want to find news on the internet, but buy him us shale gas. and we are free from addiction. that is, of course, that is, they have a withdrawal from addiction, which means we don’t buy from russia . the second news is that cucumbers were found in poland ; how is it that russian cucumbers hit the market. i want to reassure europeans, both belarusian and russian goods will be on european markets, only more expensive and through intermediaries, as you bought cucumbers, you will you will buy gas and oil and potash fertilizers will only be more expensive, and therefore the europeans will come out. they are tired of these leaders who are for sale, nonetheless. that's about whether the macron is holding. uh, here it is the lack of confidence in the government of e macron, uh, the deputies tried to take over the assembly of france, only nine votes were not enough, but they say that they will return to this issue. there is a chance that they will press this story, as they say, and internal polls in france show that this is already the third of the population for the resignation of the macron, and his government, still sits. you understand here such a moment. eh, what's it called? it is impossible to guess, in my opinion, from the information that i have and based on the processes that are taking place in europe , he will sit and, most importantly, sit, even despite the fact that he is acting against his own people, despite the fact that this person practically today does not decide nothing in their own state, but even the parliament of france, which has always been progressive, which many issues it tried to solve, it failed to remove the government, which goes against its own people, that is, turn the bond between the people , the government and the representatives of the people in the form, e.g., of parliament, is broken. that is, it doesn't matter. pay attention to this. and uh, they don't even ask parliament anymore. and whether you want or how you like your point of view. we just make a decision regardless of your point of view. on the way your people talk about it, that's why in my opinion macron is a representative of, uh, let's say multinational companies, a person who is unprincipled, to whom the people themselves. in in general, m-m is not particularly interesting. and that's what he is, that zelensky is the representatives of one class who are ready to do what they are told. we need to remember what the macron said, but about his reform. he said that this is a treasure and therefore all the measures that he is taking today. it is a struggle for the treasures he has presented. uh, here you need to choose, either human rights, or state expediency and deputies. here are the nine people who didn't vote. they are well aware that france needs this form. and this is not the first. uh, here is an option how to introduce this reform. after all, it was under nicolas sarkozy for the first time they were exactly the same tough. yes, many many other questions. uh, here, as if the specifics of the processes are like the fact is that, it seems , there is one main issue - this is pension reform, but after all, an undercurrent is added to it and therefore the protests take such a form as trade unions, which, uh, pursue a noble goal and solve the pension problem, and not just unable to control, who else will join and those who organize the pogrom today in france these are not the people who came out for pension reform. and when they judged us, er, they didn't want to see these undercurrents. now they see them at home, we discuss them. today is the biggest event of the week. here , as such, probably the main focus of this program, march 22 is the most important day in belarusian history. this is the day of remembrance of the burnt villages. you say one word khatyn and everything becomes immediately. clearly, for us today, dmitry evgenievich, for us today, khatyn. what is this in the first place? this is a symbol of very great sorrow and understanding. what our parents, our uh predecessors, had to go through in order to create our peaceful islet, which is located in the middle of the now raging ocean, and therefore, uh, at a time when other countries are trying not only to rewrite, but simply to trample on, uh, the canons general humanity, but demolishing monuments. uh, relaxing nazism. uh, we are creating, we are consolidating in order to show you know that it is not so, it is easy to lose every third belarusian during the war. this tragedy, national them. but you don't. this is just one of the small symbols such as the brest fortress, like the red coast. e, like khatyn, like our others, like a memory, like a museum of the great patriotic war, which are the only ones that have rallied so much pain and human suffering around themselves, so, of course, uh, now we have 80 years of this tragedy and we will save it for thousands of years, so that humanity knows what can happen simply, but in one small island. i think khatyn today is guide to action for us. ah, none of the psychologists, uh, groups of psychologists, have ever answered our question. what happened to germany in the thirties and forties, what was the specificity of his psychological state of german society? nobody answered the questions. at what moment under the influence of what circumstances does a person turn into a beast? we have seen it in desire. this is the most striking example. education remorse of democracy we know for sure. they are not a guarantee that this will never happen again, so for us it is not only memory. this is work ahead of the curve and the development of all kinds of scenarios that can be the only way we can survive and the only way we can honor the memory of those people who once died for us never. for me personally, this is a tragedy, because like most. present here. my grandfathers were once directly involved. in these activities. it means defending the motherland and destroying fascism. and for the people , again, this is probably a symbol of steadfastness, and so to speak, the goal for which it is worth living, and the goal is to preserve the nationality proper and its own identity and prevent the repetition of these events. i fully agree with the words that were said. yes, and understanding where to go. and what can be done to prevent this? today we must not forget, we must not allow. and most importantly, we must clearly understand that no one but us will make our country better, eh, but these people who then destroyed our people, their descendants are ready today. this is to continue. and you are the price that our grandfathers and great-grandfathers paid for the fact that we live today in a free independent belarus is our khatyn past. this is our real one, when bandera’s people raised their heads around our country and many say that they must be forgiven and accepted as the basis of current life and khatyn our future, because having betrayed the past, and they want to take this history from us. we will give the future of our country and lose statehood, therefore khatyn. for us , this is such a symbol that we will never forget and will always have children. thanks a lot for participating in our program. we thank our guests, but do not say goodbye in a couple of minutes , another meeting with an interesting interlocutor. stay with us. we are going on an expedition like our ukraine along the path that you have not collected your smart alice , we are straightening the road in order to show you, that is, ball solutions and, according to rumors, give the history of human history a name with originality for people, what he knows and loves from the line guests? and vyvyazko otshukat place yakim gonaradze tudeishi and give the second tradition a new life. selfie along with the project on before mentioned on the tv channel, belarus twenty-four. each journey is a real quest and the first task for them, no matter how creepy it sounds on the one hand, but it is directly connected with this place, the ancient necropolis cemetery, which is more than 400 years old. i don't know where to look for the swedish garant. this is a whole archaeological complex. and what is behind us behind our backs. this is one of the tips of the iceberg. travel and solve cultural historical puzzles along with many legends leading here, which we slept, that they were ready to be unmarried. let's go stone, scissors, paper, watch on belarus 24 tv channel. we continue and right now we are in touch with an interlocutor who, for a large internet audience, does not need special introductions dmitry puchkov. dmitrievich hello, thank you. here on the internet. we see that there are many interesting people now, but you are one of the few who manages to speak about very complex things in a very simple and clear language. here is what is happening now in ukraine you clearly see from that point of view, who and for what is actually fighting? in general, yes, my military dad, he explained to me from childhood, in my opinion, since then nothing has changed. here is our country, here is the west that opposes us and wants to destroy us, and ukraine is just a tool. unfortunately there with the help of propaganda. i don’t know of any cunning efforts that happened so that they were able to kill the population of ukraine, they were able to kill, that he had to die for the interests of the united states in order to live better in the united states ukrainians must die to die, well, with my point of view. it is not right. well, that 's their choice. here we are today in the program, uh , before this, uh, recalled the khatyn tragedy, like many other burned belarusian villages with the same terrible fate. and every time you talk about this, especially lately , you involuntarily catch yourself thinking if our grandfathers, who didn’t get there , were told that one day the russians would have to denocify ukraine and the local population would, of course, watch some new one, and the azov policemen would either not believe us or even worse, they would be reproached with words, for which we then died, as you begin to think, how did we come to this in general. well, in my opinion, this is a natural consequence of the collapse of the soviet union all anti-soviet. it’s just about this and some video of these conversations there, oh, what kind of money do you have there , this stalin oh, there, my god, stalin won the war. here we now have solid all around, believers are all around, where they are all the fabrics of all christians and the orthodox question. whose side was god on if stalin won? oh there hate the bolsheviks. maybe he was for them in the end already on the very? i don’t know at a primitive level there, maybe we are the side of good after all, and this is nazism. and this is a satanic evil, there is no other way to explain it. and you whose side were you on when you smashed the soviet union and kicked everything soviet, you don’t understand, right? that this humiliation and spitting is at the same time the rise of nazism. well, he's not hitler. he's not bad, he was with the jews, it turned out a little bad. and so he was good. he is he killed the bolsheviks, whom you hate so fiercely, and your peasants. or maybe they supported the soviet partisans. and so then the germans were absolutely right. and this i do not know the most primitive logical construction. you do not understand what you are doing, you do not understand what you are moving towards. i'm the same, well, i don't know. w natural gates to hell who are you justifying here with you? here stalin is wrong here you have good white bases and you already have a wonderful hitler, it turns out that this was categorically not allowed by the ancestors any there other political beliefs on health. let there be other ancestors in the war against nazism. the ancestors were absolutely right. much, unfortunately, it turned out that these same nazis. well, they didn't. well, they didn't. well, first of all, it was apparently just physically very difficult to do not everything, so to speak, in the know. what kind of hostilities were unfolding on the territory of western ukraine after the german nazis were higher from there and finished off the remaining ukrainian nazis, when there four divisions of the nkvd were involved and killed in total, if i remember correctly. 170,000 people of ukrainian nazis and their accomplices there are monstrous numbers. this is how it was all organized armed incited. well, they didn't. well, that's how it happened. well, our western allies, dear ones, did they relocate all this to themselves in canada, in south america, did they cherish or cherish there? well, in the ninety-first year they returned, and now yesterday's nazis and today's nazis marched through the ukrainian streets. and by the way, again for little-knowing khatyn - this is the only example, so to speak, that is well known, ask. here the germans carried out a winter magic operation in the border areas, take an interest. how many belarusian villages were burned there along with people. and who was involved in this? well, it ’s obvious that ukrainian nazis, latvian nazis and ken’s absence with them are just those who are in power in latvia today in ukraine in power. well, what would your ancestors say? i'm afraid they would not talk to us while the west is trying to sanctions fence our countries. for this, china is visiting a state official somewhere , lukashenka himself comes to moscow on a state visit, sits pinu , communicates very warmly with vladimiraudi arabia is moving towards rapprochement the emirates are starting to help siri we remember what kind of relationship they had before and the feeling that crackling and breaking is already heard. this old order, from which such a smell is already coming. it is already rotting and finally, and something truly new is being born, no such a feeling. there is, of course, yes. well, this new thing was outlined back in minsk in the munich speech of vladimir vladimirovich putin , where the discussion turned to a multipolar world. well, since then, but everything is moving there and the gas pipelines are the power of siberia, designed long ago and built long ago, and various working relations have long been established and xi jinping is not the first time you come to moscow. a long time ago i came 10 years ago, in my opinion, and this is quite obvious. that is, this is what happened there in moscow, but from my point of view. this is a clear indicator that which side china has already turned