while vladimir yevtushenkov didn't realize this immediately, while igor ivanovic is a man of traditional views, which is if you can grab a piece, you've got to grab it. >> charlie: he's also the closest person to vladimir putin, is he not? >> well, he has always carried out the functions of a servant of his whose job is to take care of a whole bunch of tasks that putin didn't want to deal with himself. i think that maybe in a lesser role, but he still remains in this position. but you should note that he knows putin well and knows how to manipulate him well. i think that this effectiveness, this efficiency which consists of him coming up to putin with a question and just that time when putin is in the right mood or he creates the mood for putin and then comes up to him with a question, you know, the usual intrigues of this sort. this is something igor ivanovic is a great expert at. >> charlie: you're quoted as saying he's one of the few people i hate. >> well, that's probably too strong but if we say there are people towards whom i truly do have a bad attitude then igor ivanovic is certa