i guess the lang wan that justice ginsberg used at the closing of the vmi case is a an important thing. a prime part of the history of our constitution is the story of the extension of constitutional rights to people once ignored or excluded. >> several justices raised doubts. the case should even be before them and justice anthony kennedy suggested the court dismiss it with no ruling at all which could allow gail marriages to -- gay marriages to resume in california. and you can find a lot more of the audio recordings from the proposition 8 supreme court arguments on our website, ktvu.com. there are also transcripts to today's proceedings and tomorrow, the supreme court will be hearing the defense of marriage act. at the supreme court considers the arguments in the prop 8 case, public opinion appears to be leaning in favor of same sex marriage rights. a rhee cent poll finds that -- recent poll finds that 5 #% of americans -- 53% of americans think it should be legal for same sex couples to marry while 39% say it should not be legal. that's a big change from just one year ago, last may

i guess the lang wan that justice ginsberg used at the closing of the vmi case is a an important thing. a prime part of the history of our constitution is the story of the extension of constitutional rights to people once ignored or excluded. >> several justices raised doubts. the case should even be before them and justice anthony kennedy suggested the court dismiss it with no ruling at all which could allow gail marriages to -- gay marriages to resume in california. and you can find a lot more of the audio recordings from the proposition 8 supreme court arguments on our website, ktvu.com. there are also transcripts to today's proceedings and tomorrow, the supreme court will be hearing the defense of marriage act. at the supreme court considers the arguments in the prop 8 case, public opinion appears to be leaning in favor of same sex marriage rights. a rhee cent poll finds that -- recent poll finds that 5 #% of americans -- 53% of americans think it should be legal for same sex couples to marry while 39% say it should not be legal. that's a big change from just one year ago, last may

justicee language that ginsburg used at the closing of the vmi case is an important thing, it resonates with me, "a prime part of the history of our constitution is the story of the extension of constitutional rights to people once ignored or excluded." >> thank you, counsel. general verrilli? >> mr. chief justice, and may it please the court -- proposition 8 denies gay and lesbian persons the equal protection of the laws -- >> you don't think you're going to get away with not starting with the jurisdictional question, do you? [laughter] >> as an amicus, i thought i might actually, your honor. and -- and, of course, we didn't take a position on standing. we didn't -- we didn't brief it, we don't have a formal position on standing. but i will offer this observation based on the discussion today and the briefing. we do think that while it's certainly not free of doubt, that the better argument is that there is not article iii standing here because -- i don't want to go beyond just summarizing our position, but -- because we don't have a formal position. but we do think that with respect t

guess the language that justice ginsburg used at the closing of the vmi case is an important thing, it resonates with me, "a prime part of the history of our constitution is the story of the extension of constitutional rights to people once ignored or excluded." >> thank you, counsel. general verrilli? >> mr. chief justice, and may it please the court -- proposition >> -- >> you don't think you are going to get away with not starting? >> i thought i might. we don't have a formal position on standing, but i will observe that -- i will offer this observation based on a briefing. we do think that while it is not free of doubt, the better argument is that there is not article 3 standing here. i want to go beyond summarizing. we do think with respect to standing that at this point, but the process over, petitioners have what is in that nature of a generalized grievance. have another official tie to the state that would result in any official control. rather tenuous, but today, question, and our interests are, justice alito, in tomorrow's issues where we have briefed the court tomorrow. with

guess the language that justice ginsburg used at the closing of the vmi case is an important thing, it resonates with me, "a prime part of the history of our constitution is the story of the extension of constitutional rights to people once ignored or excluded." >> thank you, counsel. general verrilli? >> mr. chief justice, and may it please the court -- proposition 8 denies gay and lesbian persons the equal protection of the laws -- going don't think you're to get away with not starting with the jurisdictional question, do you? [laughter] >> as an amicus, i thought i might actually, your honor. and -- and, of course, we didn't take a position on standing. we didn't -- we didn't brief it, we don't have a formal position on standing. but i will offer this observation based on the discussion today and the briefing. we do think that while it's certainly not free of doubt, that the better argument is that there is not article iii standing here because -- i don't want to go beyond just summarizing our position, but -- because we don't have a formal position. but we do think that with respec

guess the language that justice ginsburg used at the closing of the vmi case is an important thing, it resonates with me, "a prime part of the history of our constitution is the story of the extension of constitutional rights to people once ignored or excluded." >> thank you, counsel. general verrilli? >> mr. chief justice, and may it please the court -- proposition 8 denies gay and lesbian persons the equal protection of the laws -- >> you don't think you're going to get away with not starting with the jurisdictional question, do you? [laughter] >> as an amicus, i thought i might actually, your honor. and -- and, of course, we didn't take a position on standing. we didn't -- we didn't brief it, we don't have a formal position on standing. but i will offer this observation based on the discussion today and the briefing. we do think that while it's certainly not free of doubt, that the better argument is that there is not article iii standing here because -- i don't want to go beyond just summarizing our position, but -- because we don't have a formal position. but we do think that with