, ibm is a great partner of vmware.e love their services business. ibm cloud has 2,000 plus customers so we're going to partner really well with the team we compete with a small part of red hat's business in containers but 80% of red hat's business is l linux, open chat, shift and j boss is not doing well but the future of containers is a small part of the business we can walk and chew gum we can partner with ibm and compete with the small part of red hat. we want a big tent in vmware, compete with as few people as possible >> i love that, you are a man of your word. where are we with chai that? do i ha china you can tell me jim, things are not where we want them to be >> first off, we have to abide by the laws of the land, so if the u.s. federal government asks us that we're not supposed to do business with certain companies we'll abide by that. >> okay. >> we have certain chinese companies that depend on us and we have a good business that employs there and hope over the long-term the trade issues resolve themselves f

given the size and complexity, vmware could be interesting, very large.would have to get to continue to deal. there are options for broadcom. it is clearly a roll up story and needs acquisitions to further its story. taylor: a story we will be following. thank you. doubi news says h.b. in -- said they plan to move some production to avoid tariffs. he did tell us flexibility in the supply chain is helping the company navigate the dynamics. take a listen. >> we have a supply chain that has flexibility globally. we have 25 manufacturing the sotheby's across the globe. -- manufacturing facilities across the globe. i think we have done a nice job balancing the tariff dynamics and we will continue to work our way through it. hopefully the government's will come to an appropriate agreement at the right time. >> what does that mean in terms of adjusting your supply chains? you talked about 25 manufacturing sites when will you have to adjust prices? have you done so already? >> great question. there have been three tariff lists we have been able to navigate so far

how do you view china as a vehicle of growth for vmware, how much will it power the growth and sales in the next five years or so how does a china trade war impact those forecasts >> overall we believe this free trade. we believe that's the right way for the world economy to be operating. the core issue is intellectual property how intellectual property is being used, controlled, how it's leveraged for access to markets. we believe that will last a while. i don't think near-term a trade agreement fundamentally addresses that underlying core issue. for vm ware, it's a small market for us, it's he growing nicely we're highly committed to the market and satisfying customers in china of course we'll obey international trade laws, u.s./china law inside of that. we're committed to continue to see that as a growth market for us long-term even as we see this turbulence in the near-term an we'd we'll continue to ride through that. >>> still to come, get ready for the 4th of july. we'll tell you how much americans will spend on their independence day barbecues if you're hitting the roads, they