in 2010, the economic recovery adviser board, the voelker board, released a report on tax reform that we talked about on this show, the 58 different proposals for tax reform. one of them was about the way the tax system treats large private companies differently than large public companies. >> s corpss. >> i used what i thought was a correct but turned out to be incorrect as an example of a large private company, using totally public sources like the forbes list of private companies and some newspaper articles, i thought they were. and i said, in the question and answer on this call about the. >> wait, this is public? the irs put this out then? >> so what happened is. >> you and shulman. did you get together with shulman? what did he ask you? was he accusing you? >> the no, this had nothing to do with that. my meeting with shulman had nothing to do with that accusation and that this accusation had nothing to do with the p-rab report. this was an incidental example which the coke industries folks came out and said, that's not true, what i had said, they weren't an example of it and i h