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>> jimmy: the cover of "vogue."he puppy back there? >> oh, my gosh, the puppy! >> jimmy: it's the cutest thing, right? >> i was with my hair and makeup, and you know, our little tiny team, and everyone was kind of there for me. and i was like, "oh, i'm really nervous." and then we saw the puppy and everyone just left me. [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: so you were just by yourself? >> yeah. >> jimmy: it's interesting you were on the cover of "vogue," because for this role, you kind of got it -- you got the role at a "vogue" event. >> yeah, i was at dinner for "vogue" and i was sitting -- i was actually sitting on a table with baz luhrmann's wife, catherine martin. and she sat opposite me for the whole dinner and she wouldn't look. and she wouldn't look at me in the eye. >> jimmy: and you had already auditioned for the role? >> i had auditioned three weeks before and i'd been waiting for the phone to ring for three weeks. >> jimmy: 'cause she won't look at you, so you're like -- >> "oh, i didn't get it." >> jimmy: i did

she's making her mark on high fashion as the new cover girl of "vogue magazine."merizing video of kate upton dancing in a tiny red bikini went instantly viral on youtube. the dance is called cat daddy. >> cat daddy? oh, yes. well, you know, apparently i can dance. i didn't know right away, but everyone seems to like it. >> try 16 million views and counting. these days upton just 20 years old is everywhere. shooting a movie with cameron diaz. on the red carpet at the met ball. beloved by top designers. >> i love a sexy, curvy girl. the stick figures are not for me. >> how did this curvy one-time bikini model become fashion's new it girl. >> i think i'm really lucky, and, you know, i never saw it coming. >> upton, the great granddaughter of one of the founders of whirlpool grew up in melbourne, florida. >> i did want to be a bikini model. i lived in bikinis because i lived in florida. >> upton was discovered in her teens. soon "sports illustrated" came calling. one cover. then two. tv commercials for the super bowl, like this one for mercedes benz. >> you missed a s

amy ashley is the editor in chief of "teen vogue" magazine which covers this topic.ou're here to tell your story. a bit of a miracle. >> something like that. >> that was a brutal, brutal crash. >> we want to warn everybody, hoda. because some of the images we're going to see can be pretty upsetting. >> pretty graphic. >> you were driving. and you were on your phone, you're not sure if it was the exact point of impact. but you did have your phone going. explain what you remember of what happened to you that day. >> well, i was stationed at mcguire air force base in new jersey. i'm an air force veteran. and i was going to see friends that lived in virginia. >> about five hours away. >> yeah. about. so i was going to see them. and it was a long trip. you know, and you're by yourself. so you're trying to keep yourself entertained. and you've got the cell phone going. and with texting, updating facebook, talking on the phone. you have not only that, but the gps. and -- >> right. there's a lot of -- >> radio. >> all of those things. you know, there's a number of distractio

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. ♪ come on vogue let your body move to the music ♪ >>> all right, time to check "the pulse," stories going to talk about today including the fashion statement in new york at the met gala. >> punk was the theme this year and celebrities like sarah jessica parker fully embraced it with a bold print gown and thigh high velvet boots topped off with a mohawk headpiece. >> miley cyrus also went all out in a fishnet dress and spiky due and anne hathaway turned heads. >> a new museum letting fans get up and personal. >> fans can celebrate all things abba with the opening of a new exhibit in stockholm. >> it features music and a lot more visitors to sing along with hologram and band members and even see digital images of what they looked like in abba's flare pants and boots. >> it gives "knowing me knowing you" a whole new meaning. >> are you a fan? >> i saw them -- >> corny or not, they're good. >>> forget the sea legs, an australian toddler already has his ski legs. >> this is cool. ryder is a 7-month-old learning to waterski. look how happy this little guy is. >> there he is being pulled a

pesticides and machinery to the detriment of agro ecological approaches but since those phrases came into vogue the u.s. farm population has been decimated today there are more prisoners in the us than farmers worldwide more than one billion people are chronically hungry largely due. food price increases the genetically modified organism as that term as it's currently used really refers to organisms created through genetic engineering and most often it means introducing genes that are not within. the species pool the bacteria shoots genes into the plants the plant grows a big tumor that makes this really weird compound that only aggro bacterium can eat in the sag bacteria and sets up its own little food factory so this natural disease is really the basis for a lot of genetic engineering we do today. people figured out that this process happened. they learned how to take the disease causing genes out of the transfer of d.n.a. and learned how to replace them with genes of interest so we still use agro bacterium we put the genes we want in agra bacterium delivers the d.n.a. into the plant cells wh

pesticides and machinery to the detriment of agro ecological approaches but since those phrases came into vogue the u.s. farm population has been decimated today there are more prisoners in the u.s. than farmers worldwide more than one billion people are chronically hungry largely due. food price increases the genetically modified organism as that term as it's currently used really refers to organisms created through genetic engineering and most often it means introducing genes that are not within. the species pool the bacteria shoots genes into the plants the plant grows a big tumor that makes this really weird compound that only agger bacterium can eat and so ag bacterium sets up its own little food factory so this natural disease is really the basis for a lot of genetic engineering we do today. people figured out that this process happened. they learned how to take the disease causing genes out of the transferred d.n.a. and learned how to replace them with genes of interest so we still use agro bacteria and we put the genes we want in agro bacterium delivers the d.n.a. into the plant cells w

. >> host: other than how much in vogue as a patron or modern patron of oscar politics and very may well be a reason that her successor david cameron, the current leader of great britain embarked upon the outcome of the painful path in response to the financial crisis of 2008, i me, much invoke even if ashley the conditions of today bear almost no resemblance to the kind of massive labor strikes and having nationalized economy that should do with in 1979. >> guest: exactly. people forget for example, she did reduce the putatively high rate of personal income tax in britain. in fact, 83%. no country as far as i'm aware has personal income tax late -- rate like that today. she raises taxes on consumption because she believes in balanced budgets. she was willing to raise taxes to make the books balance. and in this she was quite different from ronald reagan about enormous deficit to build-a-bear this is quite a source of friction between the two of them. but when an american conservatives now's seek to position themselves as part of her legacy, i really wonder if they're paying attention to

later in the inning, bad news for vogue ill song. he got hit by this pitch on his throwing hand. he fractured two bones in that hand and he will have surgery tomorrow out for an extended period of time, at least six weeks. bad luck for vogelsong. giants win 8 to nothing. >> swung at the pitch and it ran in and hit me on the hand. it's pretty bad. >> we were behind the whole time, you know, just happy for him as we could be. it's tough to see him go down by this, but we know he'll be back and strong and ready to go. >> we'll find out more tomorrow whiff surgery. >>> things are heating up for the a's in texas. not soon enough for smith who had not hit a home run since april 28th. drought over. bartolo colon will turn 40 on friday. looking for his 19th win against texas. rbi double to left. coco had three hits. he crosses the plate. the a's being out 15 hits and beat the mighty texas rangers 9-2 for their fourth-straight win. >>> forgot the words at star spangled banner at hockey game [ singing ] but the revel we played. >>> no. 4, red wings and black hawks. look at that. core ree c

in vogue area is the capital sofia opposition protesters clashed with police following sunday's preliminaryparliamentary election demonstrators chanting mafia as they tried to break through police barricades exit polls show the party of former prime minister boyko borisov is leading the vote with a slight margin over the rival socialist party or assad's government all resigned in february following widespread protests against corrupt. finally in the news block in her annual speech queen elizabeth of england announced the country will have to stick with its austerity program which is already seen many britons forced to tighten their belts but the monarch recently got an almost five million pound pay raise for carrying out her official duties artie's polya boyko a look at where the thirty six million pounds of taxpayers' money actually goes. my minister's first priority will be to reduce the deficit and restore economic stability at the same time the creed is set to get a five billion pound pay rise this year thirty six point one million pounds from the u.k. taxpayer will go towards the queen

line you were relegated off the very term and signed the mail in a fairly steep basement battle at vogue a hundred grigori of sure a straight red for the stairs up to eighty minutes. for the home side ahead from a spot on the stroke of half time when red card yellows three points clear of relegation play offs which are birds we don't see. so with just two games left the top of the russian primary table looks like this tesco and five points clear at the top with six available after isn't a could only do it all stuff and could wrap up the title against next saturday they're still third but every team down to ninth place closet out could theoretically snatch the three europa league places and at the bottom of a lan your return to the second. they get a stay of execution for another week unclear are currently on course for the relegation play. well despite spotlight stuttering league position and amid the global financial crisis andy wife is new first play roles the must go science academy remains russia's beacon in producing homegrown talent for it seen a side because of them but apple has

that you have some real problems here on the road it's cool it's a global governance which is very vogue right now he needs to his nation is is all over the world in different countries and so what's been you know global geopolitics right now is the obama way of thinking the european union way of thinking if it's because it's right well i mean what if what if iran was wrong it will we can disagree about that but i think that's why the pope is doing this right now that's his motivation or you think he's just trying to be cool as you try to get more twitter followers well i think that's that's the pulse of what's going on in the world right now in terms of what powerful people are saying and talking about matthew i think that catholicism has always been officially suspicious. capitalism obo it has cooperated with it for the most part you had pope. john paul the second saying similar things even while aiding solidarity. least rhetorically in poland to help defeat the soviet union but the larger question is it possible the my original question you guys was is it possible for capitalism to no

muslim sensibility and i'm very suspicious actually of various vogue of forms of nationalism that tend to be chauvinist pig that think that somehow only human being within borders has value and those outside have no value or much less value but because we live in a moment in which capitalism is so ubiquitous it is so had to monic it is leading for its own internal collapse there's no doubt about that given the ecological catastrophe but we've still got a way to go and we still have to fight days. in and day out even when the reforms are not enough the reforms do make a difference because every individual ought to be viewed as being precious but i think in the end without a means of fundamental transformation of a cabalist an imperialist world yes i definitely think thinking of states as just nation states and not extending empathy across nation states is one of the biggest the turns toward world peace and also this global empathy and global consciousness but not i mean capitalism and peerless and seem to go hand in hand where you have the global had you're on now encroaching on the las

i have one. >> we know "vogue" magazine. 23 here you are vera wang style editor.t was i wasn't just so happy to be there and really honored to be there and the very fact i was put in a position where i could grow and earn was such an enormous benefit to me a blessing really, and i think that was the part of it. passion for the job, the desire to be there, the feeling that i was lucky and privileged. and that meant a lot. >> but your first passion was ice-skating. if things had gone differently -- >> thinks did not go differently. i once joked with friends. nancy kerrigan michelle quan they all attained very very high degrees and obtained an olympic goal. but the real truth is many of us train just as hafrmd we have the same sacrifices, same hours, same discipline, same pain and we don't achieve anything to speak of and so i really learned from that that it was more about the process of it and doing it just doing it like niky said rather than like the end also or the goal. >> michael kors called you black belt chapper. >> he's right. he's one of my best friends. >>

to wales, the 16 year old turner was following in the footsteps of william gilpin, who launched the vogueor picturesque travel with his illustrated guidebooks. in the 1770s, landscape artists developed a picturesque style, depicting scenes of unspoiled nature. they created romanticized views of the rough countryside pleasingly arranged in quiet, harmonious compositions. the picturesque allowed turner to move beyond mere topographical images and concentrate on atmosphere and poetic effects of light. advocates of the picturesque sought subjects that gave witness to the ravages of time and neglect. the wye valley was a favorite destination. tintern abbey's romantic associations were impeccable-- a remnant of england's medieval splendor, its nearby woods and hillsides celebrated in poetry by william wordsworth. (reader) "once again do i behold these steep and lofty cliffs-- that on a wild secluded scene impress-- thoughts of more deep seclusion; and connect-- the landscape with the quiet of the sky." (narrator) turner adopted the picturesque approach but focused on the abbey itself. his preco

. >> they always seem to be in vogue these days. stock calling its way back from its 2009 depth.his was a 50 buck stock back in 2007. doesn't matter. those are the most tweeted about stocks in the last month but what stocks are traders betting will fall. herb is back and he has been looking at the most short ed, ad will not be any longer. >> it is not on the list. obviously used by many as a hedge. i would think and hope, nokia. coming back. no one believes, one of the best headlines i have heard. please let's end the experiment. he is the ceo of this company. brian loves the phone. you talk about the most tweeted stock, it's one of the most hated stocks. then there is the largest short interest increases. then -- that's kind of odd. >> maybe that's one reason. just looking at the names, actually. here is a company we never mentioned. cst brands. >> never heard of them. >> what do they do? >> velero is the brand. then on the nasdaq, the biggest short positions. sirius xm radio. >> look at that. who would have -- it's hard to short a stock like that. i have not seen it on any of t

. >> how vogue are you supposed to look pregnant?hatever. >> "extra" has "the voice" stars on their summer plans. >> still like eating a lot. >> shakira on taking a baby break. and why blake's big-timing usher. >> i don't see usher doing any of this. >> maria and martha talking men -- >> i'm dating both of those men. >> and how she's keeping it sexy at 71. >> 500 sit-ups. >> the new bachelorette stripped down, sizing up her men and

here is your first look at the super model on the june cover of american "vogue" out nationwide on mayashion? >> i think that kate is a very accessible model. she reminds me of the old days of cindy crawford or stephanie seymour, i think she has that american girl next door quality. >> does this show that curvy girls can make it too? >> i mean i really feel like being healthy and loving your life is important. if that means your curvy, that's what it means. i'm excited that it's being accepted. >> alaina cho, cnn, new york. >> somehow beating the odds and succeeding in every facet of life. that is all for "starting point." i'm john berman. "cnn newsroom" with carol costello with the latest on the investigation in cleveland begins right now. >>> happening now in the "newsroom," cnn exclusive. daughter of ariel castro, breaking her silence. >> i have no problem cutting him out of my life. i never want to see him again. >> angie gregg, opening up, talking about her father, and piecing together the horrors that happened at her childhood home. >> ever since my mom lived in that house, the b

it's like this party that "vogue" throws. >> yes, it's a fashion party.you win, we get it. [ laughter ] you are good-looking people. >> jimmy: but congratulations, nine seasons with "the office." >> thank you, very much. crazy. >> jimmy: it's coming to an end. >> it's so bizarre. like, 206 episodes we did. >> jimmy: is that right? >> in a row. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: in a row. but do you remember the first day? >> i do, actually, for many reasons. one, i was terrified. i was a waiter before i had this show. so i was terrified to have an actual job. not that waiting tables isn't a job, it was just -- it's scary. and i remember driving home. we shot in van nuys, california, which i recently found out is the porn capital of the world. >> jimmy: i did not know that. >> yeah, i didn't know that either. so i was driving home, it was a little late, a little tired. and i jammed on the brakes for what i thought was a deer or something. it was a naked woman. running across the street. >> jimmy: running across the street? >> and then another naked woman ran across th

congressman on his own, not guy given up for a by politically dead, latest so-called rogue back in vogueill clinton before him to maybe, maybe anthony weiner after him, to chris stirewalt where there can be success after the sorted headlines. >> we see it all of the time, people are forgiving to a point, important thing to remember, as it relates to mark sanford, this is not the most republican district in south carolina but it is pretty dog gone republican, there is, that but thing that sanford did to win over the nene of the voters -- confidence of the voters, saying, i served in governor's office for two years after this imbeembarrassing indexsing inden without embarrassing you further, they gave him another shot. neil: you know, this gives hope to a lot of -- okay, you know corporate shysters and the rest, who try to resurrect their images and careers, many do success, i don't know it is because we're a forgiving people. or we see through their flaws to their talents, that could explain bill clinton's come back and those who overcame scandals in prior years, is there a common thread

in vogue areas capital sofia opposition protesters clashed with police following sunday's preliminary parliamentary vote demonstrators trying chanted mafia as they tried to break through police barriers exit polls show the party of former ball garion prime minister boyko boris solve leading the vote with a slight margin over the rival socialist party government all resigned in february following widespread protests against corruption. recapping our top story this hour at least nineteen people injured in a shooting during a mother's day parade in new orleans two ten year olds were among the wounded according to reports two people are in surgery though there were no deaths police say there were three gunmen involved the search for the suspects ongoing we'll keep you updated as the situation develops. the american civil liberties union mourning the us public against being bogged down with too much debt because revealed figures showing a rising number of people who fail to pay their debts and fines end up behind bars with a court verdict the practice being chastised and criticized as unco

. >> i want today to look very vanity, elegant, like how vogue does celebrities. >> reporter: so she turned to long-time friend and maryland's first lady, katie o'malley. >> i thought, instead of a model, what about a role model. >> that's when katie o'malley went glam. >> she's in a perforated leather jacket, helding -- holding her little dog. >> reporter: seven photos of the first lady, who prefers to be called katie, at home in the governor's mansion, are anything but traditional. >> she got up on the table, kicked her shoes off. she was by that beautiful chandelier. and i was like, we got it. it was magical. >> reporter: the governor's take? >> very proud of her. and it was certainly an artistic side of her that people aren't accustomed to seeing when she's sitting up there in a black robe on the bench. >> the man with the smoke machine got a little carried away. and at one point, the whole front of the mansion was covered in smoke. >> reporter: not a problem for katie. once the smoke cleared, this one made the cut. >> reporter: the photo shoot in annapolis lasted the entire day,

the vogue and all that kind of stuff like that. it's a variety of things you can run for.t just beauty. we cut up sheets and towels and make little dresses and you know. we destroy state property to make the outfits. >> do you make them look better? >> yes, actually. look at my face. >> we explored another special housing unit at l.a. county as well. the mental health ward where we encountered one of the most unforgettable scenes ever shown on "lockup." >> there was one gentleman in particular who i could barely see him because there was so much graffiti all over his cell door. and all over his walls, it looked like hieroglyphics. >> a lot of the writing on the door is human feces and he's also combined a little mustard on it for coloring. that's what he's writing with on the actual door. he's been here for a long time. so he continually works on it. >> then i saw the inmate inside. he was completely naked except for cellophane over his private parts. seemed very gentle. didn't seem violent. wasn't pounding on the doors. he wasn't hurting himself. but he was not someone yo

. >> vogueing song's story has gob from feel good to horror. the giants right hander is allowing over 8 runs per game over 8 starts. now his job in the rotation could be in jeopardy. he will face washington tonight. he needs a huge game and his teammates have his back. >> he has been doing a tremendous amount in his career and made him stronger and made him work hard. that's made him get mentally tough and that's part of the reason why he has success in 2011, 2012. and i don't think anybody in this clubhouse or any of the coaches if they are worried, everybody will saying he will come out of it. he worked and doing all the right things and very close to getting back to where he was last year. >> vogelsong isn't the only guy on shaky ground. any raiders starter must be wondering about his future as the organization continues to rebuild. they are getting the message. head coach dennis allen said 98% of the roster participated in the team's first practice of the year. maybe the most important addition is the quarterback. matt flynn acquired in a t

i was working at vogue and a friend of mine was leaving the magazine. i threw a party in his honor.alize how exotic the stuff i served at parties was. like ham biscuits and pim ento cheese sandwiches and devilled eggs which apparently nobody in the room had ever seen, chasing the trays around. new york cocktail parties usually feature dried-up sticks of satay. a snow pea piped with some intelligible fish paste. so the people were anticipate to see all that stuff. there was some bacon there i think. the next day i got a call from "the new york times" i ended up based on that menu, writing the food essays for the magazine for a few years. now since then i went on to, when "newsweek" still had a magazine and stuff, i wrote the food essay for them and now i've been writing a regular column in "the wall street journal." i do a lot of eating and drinking anyway, i might as well capitalize on it. >> at least have it paid for. >> someone's got to pay for their ham biscuits. one of the things you talk about in the book is southern food is the great leveler. you write if southern cuisine acts

." >>> and from swimsuit covergill to "vogue."graces next month's issue of the fashion magazine, hitting stands on may 21st. >>> that will sell out. now for your starting lineup, the top four stories this morning. is tim tebow too popular for the nfl? sure looks that way. some anonymous coaches are revealing they're hesitant about giving tebow a chance because of his popularity and media circus that he would bring to any team that signs him. new sports agent jay-z is eyeing a new client, reportedly recruiting jets quarterback geno smith to sign with his agency, rock nation. the highly touted prospect fired his agent just days after falling to the second round in last month's nfl draft. >>> and one incredible feat. check this out. former kansas state star lari cone makes 132 out of 153 three-pointers in five minutes. unheard of! she currently holds the record for most three-pointers made in women's ncaa history with 392. >> wow! >> she's got talent. it's now 39 minutes after the top of the hour. >>> coming up, they didn't use guns

"vogue" is about to launch an online tv channel that will feature scripted and unscripted web shows as campaign being launched by condi nast. other brands like "vanity fair" and "wired" will get their own roll out over the next few ed to weeks. >>> he doesn't carry a cell phone and doesn't even have a compute birr today 82-year-old warren buffet sent out his first tweet. warren is in the house. the fourth richest man in the in just a few as more than hours all of them hoping it will be their most valuable follow yet. >>> the sports lead. you might get your teeth knocked out if you went up to a native american and said redskin. many consider the word a flat out racial slur. it's also the name of one of the most valuable sports franchises in the world. and now an independent d.c. city council member is leading the latest charge to change the name of the nfl team to the red tails. a nod to the tuskegee airmen the group of african-american pilots who served the u.s. in world war ii. transition would be seamless and even fits right into the fight song, hail to the red tails. it's not clear

in the same way that if you ripped all the ads out of vogue it would be half the magazine but, two, it would lose great content. the way we've approached advertising doesn't look anything like advertising across the rest of the internet today. so much of -- there's a lot of nuance here, but -- >> rose: explain to me because it's the essence of what you're trying to do. >> we've gotten so used to advertising that something that pulls you over when you're in this mode to, like, buy an ipod and buy it from best buy rather than over here. it's something people in silicon valley call harvesting intent. to take somebody looking for something and go send them do it over here and convert as quickly as possible. what advertising in media used to be was story telling. something that used to get you aspire to a life-style. something that got me as a kid growing up in manhattan, somebody who should never have any reason to want a car, but those b.m.w. ads and cars screaming around those curvey roads on that mountain made me aspire to want a car. and when i turned 18-- you have to be 18 in new york

. >>> i'll make a safe assumption that among your copies of "vogue" and "sports illustrated" at homeo not have the latest issue of "inspire" magazine an english language propaganda tool put out by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. they are the ones who wrote, quote, make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom, directions for a pressure cooker bomb that were strikingly similar to the ones allegedly used by the tsarnaev brothers for the boston marathon attacks. cnn has now obtained the latest issue of "inspire" magazine which is celebrating the boston marathon attack and praising the tsarnaev brothers calling them "brothers" and, quote, yesterday it was baghdad. today it is boston. the question of who and why should be kept aside. you should be asking where is next, a chilling comment. joining me a fellow for the center of law and security at the new york university school of law. they are putting the boston marathon attacks front and center. what message do you see that they are sending here? >> they're trying to capitalize on this to inspire more attacks and saying we inspire this. our m

. >> indeed, these days on the right, the civil war is back in vogue.ution be damned, kansas last month passed a law declaring its guns exempt from federal regulation. a move based on the southern states nullification strategy, no fewer than 36 other states have followed kansas's example. and introduced similar bills. with nra membership up to five million, background checks defeated and gun sales booming, it is still possible that sob conventioneers won't be happy until the country is taken back to 1861. joining us from washington is colin goddard, the assistant director of federal legislation at the brady campaign. colin, what a weekend, just when you thought maybe some ounce of sanity might be airlifted into the nra's annual convention, you have the sound that we just played. to me, colin, this seems, we talk a lot about this being more than just, being about more than just guns. and certainly bobby jindal talking about activist judges and the discussion by sarah palin of tobacco. it seems like this is a culture war that the nra would like to wage. >

believe in theories of class struggle and dictatorship of the proletariat and other thing that were in vogue you just didn't understand it. it was completely nonsensical. so, they tried to write articles and their journals explaining why the masses were temporarily being seduced by ayatollah khomeini, and in the end he said they were flummoxed and he said this is the end of a lot of communist and socialist believers in the middle east because it just ceased to be a viable al turnty. people didn't want it. >> host: i think that's almost an important note for us to end on. we're almost out of time but not entirely. i want to the out there this question we were debating before we came on, which is what is not in the book. one of the most significant things we talk about, a great other book for somebody in the rise of the personal computer, which happens right in the 1979-1980 time period. but do you see technology as playing a role, even in back stage, the hints of the new order that would come? >> guest: absolutely. the rise of telecommunications is usually important. ayatollah khomeini was in