transportation and infrastructure committee while in congress, and under president trump, russell vokes, especially given the fact that this bill is so broad and does have such a broad definition implied and what actually infrastructure is. >> well, i don't know if i agree with that. i do think that, you know, you have your hard infrastructure, the roads, the bridges, et cetera but you also have to have the other pieces that really support doing infrastructure so, for example, i look at 3 million people who have lost their jobs over the course of the pandemic how do we get them back into the workforce at wages they can take care of their families we do that by training them up for these jobs in the future the energy grid, for example, and all of the green energy components that are in the infrastructure package are really important to where we're going in the 21st century. and so, i actually applaud the biden administration for thinking broadly about how we need to fix what we need to do now. but look into the future >> yeah. russell, i mean, the comments that we just played just now wo