quiet for other ukrainian regions , we continue to talk about the most important things with us volodymyr dubovykdirector of the center for international studies of odesa national university and volodymyr volya , an international political scientist, congratulations, dear slava ukraine, and good health, yaroslav what about joseph , as far as we know, he is already slowly going to europe, in particular, she is now interested in the context of the great seven and the nato summit, what to expect from these large-scale i don't know sessions of events like this to name it correctly. after the first performances. yes, but we would still like to discuss the practical aspect. we had a pleasant experience at the end of june and the eu summit gave us a candidate. it is clear that it is hardly a question of the future for us. at the nato summit, but less so, whether there is any positive thing that we can sit out, vladimir , yes, yes. although, according to the alphabet by last name, mr. volya was probably the first to say that to two vladimirovna, mr. volodymyr was not wrong. exactly , look, these meetings