we will talk about this in more detail with the ex-minister of foreign affairs volodymyr hrysku joinsou, let's talk, i want to hear your opinion about this petition and about the possibility of entry of russians on visas and how timely we approached such a decision and the proposal itself, well, the war has actually been going on for more than eight years. i congratulate you, mr. yevgeny. well, i will tell you frankly that if you read my speeches or articles in 2014 , i think you found there are er three things that i er that i spoke about back then er the first was that we should immediately break off diplomatic relations the second was that we should immediately close the ukrainian russian border and the third was that that we need to introduce a visa regime for russian citizens, well you see, only eight years have passed and this idea has finally become similar to reality , at the same time, you understand that it is also quite interesting that this is a reaction to the petition of one of our citizens, well , it feels like we don't have a state there is no government apparatus on w

the european union and in the european commission, thank you very much for what happened to volodymyr hryskuister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 was with we are in touch and wish you a good evening. take care of yourself and somehow for your work. well, now we will add one more guest and we will talk with him in a different aspect, but also about politics and even touch a little on international politics. volodymyr tsibulko a political scientist from each, a people's deputy of one of the convocations, volodymyr, of the fourth convocation , volodymyr, i congratulate you, the fourth page, good evening, glad to see you, glad to hear from you, i know what i 'm going to start today. e anatomy , so to speak in russian, this is poland. after all, people said that in the future there will be no borders between ukraine and poland. well, we understand that this is de jure not, well , de facto there will be no de jure border, of course there will not be, but so what we will be so close that there won't even be borders and they already said in russia that means that poland is encroaching on