. >> it's voltaire, you don't have to do it. they suggested it for a period of time. this is voluntary. i don't think i'm going to be doing it. chris: if president trump had worn a mask then and urged everyone to wear a mask then, back in april, the way joe biden is right now, wouldn't we be in much better shape? secretary: well, chris, i welcome vice president biden to the club since the middle of april, the president guidelines -- >> chris: he's the president elect. secretary: the president has called masks, patriotic masks, we talk about the data. chris, at one meter, if two people wear the masks, it can reduce viral transmission by 72%, protecting both the source and the recipient. we've got the data, masks work, we encourage people wear a mask when we can't engage in social distancing. chris: first of all it's president elect, joe biden, secretary azar, and secondly the fact is the president said on april 3rd he wasn't going to wear a mask, he didn't wear a mask in public for 3 months until july and just last night at the rally in georgia, not only didn't he wear