i hope it will be as soon as possible ms. von kramon at the end of september accelerated accession toto how do you assess ukraine's chances of joining the north atlantic alliance it is difficult for me to make assumptions i believe that we need to make sure that ukraine will receive real security guarantees or individual security guarantees from certain eu and nato member states i would like to remind you that this issue requires a wider discourse and discussion for example, there was an article written by the former secretary general of nato, anderson fograsmusin , together with the head of the president's office, andriy yermak . but i believe that such contributions and debates are necessary start also here in berlin, in addition, we need to explain to our citizens what it means if ukraine becomes a member of nato, because many people are either in favor or are quite skeptical. however, i think that we should open space for debate on this issue and so far we are lagging behind on this and my last question to you for today, ms. von kramon, in june, ukraine became a candidate for memb

viola von kramon. member of kenya, the german alliance of the 90s, the green party from 2009 to 2013, she was a member of the bundestag and in 2019 was elected to of the european parliament congratulations ms. von kramon thank you for joining us today i sincerely thank you for inviting me again so let's start with the fact that on october 10 we saw another change in the nature of the russian war in ukraine russia fired missiles at us and it was the largest attack since the beginning of the war in february this year the european union will somehow react to this, if so, what will the reaction be? i think that this was a well-planned strategy that did not arise at one moment, because it is obvious that putin will seriously lose militarily on the battlefield it looks like this the liberation of the territory is going much more successfully than anyone could expect outside of ukraine putin is in a very tense situation, especially inside the country, so the only way to defeat ukraine before winter is of cour