coordinator of the expert council of the project office for the development of the arctic , alexandra vorotnikove conversation. how many icebreakers suitable for wiring do we have now, and how many do we need they say that in the region of 80 modern we need, right? well, you understand this, fat, and yes, and there are atomic, there are diesel icebreakers. now the builders of this have made money on natural gas. yes, relatively speaking, well, on greener fuel, but it really works seven times, and there it is, but at the same time to say that the icebreakers that were in the soviet era, they are good, of course, yes, despite everything, but they are smaller in size than those ships that you have to drag along with you and the current huge container ship, which, like cities, have to break this ice, for which they are actually not very suitable . uh, you see, this problem is very serious, and what are the good things about the new ones, do you understand? they are the most important thing, they are two sedimentary ones, that is, to understand the school, each icebreaker can replace two; it is also