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[ambmbient noisese] ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause >> seth: welcome back to "late night. we're here with hillary and chelsea clinton. i don't want to miss the opportunity to ask you about some things in the news. with the dobbs decision -- >> hhm >> seth: i think in the days after, it seemed like -- maybe this is the risk you put yourself at when you take a snapshot of a very small period of time. it seemed like people were saying that democrats were caught very flat-footed, like they weren't expecting it. but in the months since, it does seem like republicans are scrambling especially ones that have won primaries who are now trying to back off their decision. we have a lot of republicans saying it should be decided by the states we have lindsey graham then coming forward and saying there should be a federal ban. do you feel like this is, you know, an opportunity, obviously one that came at a great cost of this decision -- >> right, right. >> seth: but, you know, as the midterms approach, how do you feel this is going to, i don't know, move voters one way or the other? >> well, i can only say based on what we've seen so far, it seems to have encouraged a huge number of women and young people to register to vote the numbers from across the country are -- [ cheers and applause -- higher than i've seen in a very long time we also have three elections special election in new york the kansas election on the issue of choice and abortion and then the congressional election alaska. and in each case, the pro-choice position won and i think that's a pretty good snapshot, because obviously, it went literally across the country. so, look, i think that the republicans have been scrambling only because they can't quite believe the blowback i mean, it's one thing to say for years, "we're going to do this we're going to do that," and people not take you seriously. because who would have ever thought that women's rights would be rolled back and that's - >> we did. >> yeah. [ laughter ] well, you and i did. but that's because we take these people at their word, because we know that they are part of a relentless movement to literally turn the clock back on not just women, but gay rights to enhance all kinds of, you know, power for corporations and others, and limit individual freedom so, if people take seriously what the court did, what is happening in states, and what lindsey graham just did, which was to really spill the beans, we're going to put in a national - >> 15-week abortion ban. >> yeah, a ban no matter what you might do in your state, then they should turn out and vote, and vote for people who, you know, want to really protect the right of people to make their own decisions, whatever that decision might be. that's what they're -- [ cheers and applause >> and -- and i think, seth, that to be a woman right now is to be political because politicians have decided that they know better what we should do with our bodies than we do. and i think that women and, thankfully, the men who believe that women should have agency over our lives and ourselves don't want to go back to a time where it's actually politicians and not women and their doctors making choices >> absolutely. >> intimate choices. >> seth: i -- i also - [ cheers and applause i'd be remiss if i didn't ask you about this i don't know if you've noticed in the news, but there's been an issue about handling classified materials. >> oh, i've heard about that yeah >> seth: and we -- we've had some fun here because we can't help but find a certain level of hypocrisy from certain people, including the fella who handled this classified material because back in the day -- >> oh, so long ago >> seth: yeah, so long ago i don't know if you've ever heard this [ laughter ] he thought you should be arrested [ laughter ] >> yeah. and, you know, let me start by saying just for the history books, do you know how many classified documents i had zero zero [ cheers and applause and so, you know, you can't make this up. i mean, the lies they told, the -- you know, heated rhetoric, "lock her up," all that nonsense. it was totally political, divorced from reality. now we have a serious problem because if you just read, and i don't have any inside information, what is being found, nuclear information about an ally or an adversary. incredibly top secret -- the kind of stuff, seth, that when i was secretary of state, when they talk about secret, top secret, and then special compartmentalized and all of that, sometimes -- usually it was a man. usually a military officer, would come into my office and would have a handcuff that was attached to a suitcase in order to show me something that was so secret, he literally had to have it tied to his hand. and so, it was locked. and then he would open it. i would read it. i would sign that i'd read it. and he would take it back. that's what some of those folders on the outside say was the kind of information in it. and so, i don't care what political party you are, but come on, cut the hypocrisy this is a threat to our national security somebody would actually have in his country club storage room his desk, his bedroom, top secret information and you have to ask yourself "why what was he going to do with it?" >> or what did he -- what had he already done >> "who was he giving it to? you know or "what had he already done with it? and so, let the investigation go forward and let's, you know, find the facts unlike those guys, i'm not saying, "lock him up." i'm saying let's just find the facts and follow the evidence wherever it goes >> seth: well, i think if he - [ cheers and applause i think if he realizes he did something wrong, he'll probably turn himself in and say, "lock me up. [ laughter ] >> right, you know - >> seth: if i know the man, he's, you know - >> he'd want to take responsibility >> seth: he will take responsibility, if there's one thing we know about the man. hey, chelsea, this is very exciting as someone with three kids of my own, you wrote a book inspired by -- by having three of yours >> i did, i did. so i wrote, "welcome to the big kids club. and because when i was pregnant with our third jasper, charlotte and aidan had all these questions. like, you know -- well, first they asked, "is it going to be a boy or girl? and i said, "i don't actually know the answer to that because we're going to be surprised. but then they asked other questions like, "when will the baby talk and walk?" and "will the baby poop, like, on day one?" [ laughter ] and "why don't babies have teeth? because it would really hurt if you're breastfeeding [ laughter ] that's actually not the answer, totally. but -- so i decided to write a book because i thought, "well, if we're having these conversations, we're probably not the only family having these conversations. and so, i wish i had had this book when i was pregnant with jasper, and i'm so thankful to tania for the extraordinarily beautiful illustrations. and just so proud and excited it's out in the world. >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: well, it's very exciting [ cheers and applause thank you both for making the time it's always a pleasure >> thank you, seth thank you. >> seth: to see you especially together, hillary and chelsea clinton everybody. 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[ cheers and applause ♪ ♪ >> seth: what a joy to have you here in person >> finally i'm so relieved to be back >> seth: yes >> it's been hell. >> seth: yeah, the time away >> the time away but i learned a lot. >> seth: oh good, i can tell you're different >> i'm different, i've changed >> seth: and i liked you the first time, so this is a big - >> it's better now >> seth: it's better now >> trust me, it's better now >> seth: so this is very exciting, this is a stand-up special that's coming out tomorrow or today, is it today >> i think last night at midnight, technically, so it's out, it's out. >> seth: it's out. >> yeah. [ applause ] >> seth: and how did we come up with the title "cinnamon in the wind?" >> i don't know. >> seth: okay. >> well, you know "cinnamon in the wind," the special is largely improvised, it's really just captured one night. bo burnham directed it, the brilliant bo burnham >> seth: yes [ cheers and applause >> yes, absolutely, back to me, though, back to me and so, "cinnamon in the wind" is sort of ephemeral, right, it sort of harkens to that which is the nature of life and perhaps the show, you know >> seth: that's really -- that's really -- now it makes a lot of sense. >> yeah, yeah. that reads, yeah >> seth: so i have this question because now you're doing this one-woman show, also directed by bo burnham, and it does seem as though it's a departure from stand-up, and i'm assuming it must be a bit of a leap. it must be nice to have somebody like bo who's done the other with you as well how did you come to the -- i don't know, the conclusion to do something that was similar to stand-up and that it's just you on stage but very different? >> yes, well, the special, here's a little peek behind the curtain, the special was shot for fx three years ago >> seth: okay. >> the - >> seth: you are aging so well >> yeah, yeah. i was watching and i was like, "okay, yeah. it's terrifying. but we -- well i don't know what happened, i think the suits were a little scared about the material, they thought if people saw it, they wanted to keep the public from my comedy. >> seth: yeah. >> but i told them no, people have to see it, they were afraid there's be an uprising if people saw it [ laughter ] >> seth: wow, so this is sort of a three-year conversation that you finally won. >> yeah, and luckily -- you know, typically comedians, you do a special, it's put out immediately because comedians are responding to the times, right. but my act was mostly me crossing my eyes, so i think we're okay that the three years have passed. >> seth: because that has not gone out of style. >> no, no, i still, i can't knock that but the new show really is a - it's theatrical, it's a play, i guess you could say. >> seth: it's a really, this is a very theatrical photo, i'm very impressed with that >> that's me, drama. >> seth: yeah. >> it is like all art, just a vain attempt to be taken seriously. and so, this is really i'm trying to be like, "i'm an actress. you know, so that's -- i'm really white knuckle gripping that but it's a proper theater show, lights and excitement, and there's a little dancing in there, yeah. >> seth: your long time friend and collaborator, john early, who are big fans of on the show as well. you and john obviously communicate all the time, has he been supportive of your new off broadway show? >> it's been hard for john >> seth: yeah, because you're off on your own. >> seeing me shine [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah, thrive even >> you really find out who your friends are when you put on an off broadway show after your special's been shelved for three years, you really find out and he's been threatened -- no, it's been great. he's my best friend. he comes a lot he is so -- very funnily we'll send texts, like the day the show opened, he sent texts -- a text to bo and i that just said, "do not google the show. [ laughter ] and so, he'll call me and i'll get a voice mail and he's like, "woke up with a bad feeling. tonight's not going to work, i can feel it, don't go out there. [ laughter ] so that's very fun and - >> seth: you grew up in l.a. did you always know that you wanted to be an actor? >> how do i put this yeah [ light laughter ] >> seth: okay. did everyone around you also know >> everyone was like, "you have --" no, i just loved attention very young, striving for it at all times, still you might say, can't get enough of it and so, yeah, i mean, i wanted to be an actress, but then comedy, when you look like this, when you make faces like that constantly, you will be pushed into comedy. so but again, the play is sort of me again trying to demand an acting career. >> seth: well, there you go. >> yeah. >> seth: you, i mean, you do have an acting career that started when you were very young on a little show called "lizzie mcguire. >> yes, yeah >> seth: and do you remember getting the part >> how could i forget? it's the only part i've ever booked for an audition, essentially, truly yeah, i auditioned, i believe the audition i was supposed to have twos lines, and then it became one >> seth: so you got a one line part in "lizzie mcguire. we have the clip, do you mind if we show it >> i demand that you show it now. >> seth: okay. let's take a look at kate in "lizzie mcguire. >> lizzie, very cool pants >> her >> seth: okay, so -- [ cheers and applause now just -- we do want to make sure, because i think the eye might be drawn to the sort of principal performers who are walking towards us >> i think the eye is just uncannily drawn to me. >> seth: okay. >> you can't even see the whole -- >> seth: just in case anybody missed it, we do want to spotlight you a little bit more. let's watch it one more time >> "lizzie, very cool pants. >> her >> seth: wow, really nicely done >> yeah. [ applause ] >> seth: you were also in the new series "a league of their own," which is fantastic [ applause ] >> thank you >> seth: and you look a very believable athlete in the show were you a baseball player in your youth >> no. >> seth: okay. [ light laughter ] >> no. >> seth: but i mean you obviously-- i mean, somebody, there had to be some sort of coaching involved. >> thank you, there was coaching involved >> seth: okay. >> and that's all i'll say no, i learned -- i knew nothing, but now, i think i sort of can -- i kind of like my swing, actually, i was told -- people wonder, they said, "you've played before? and i said "no," and they fell to their knees, they were shocked. [ laughter ] >> seth: that must be a nice thing to get, especially from people who are obviously - their profession is coaching >> yes, yes. >> seth: and they just looked at you -- >> i coached the coaches it's crazy [ light laughter ] >> seth: that's your new job is to coach the coaches >> yeah. >> seth: this is a very exciting time to have you, stand-up special, "league of their own," and your off broadway show i'm so grateful that you made time for us tonight and joined us >> i don't want to leave are we done? i mean, this is -- please, don't. >> seth: our time is up but you could stay if you want >> i'm going to stay they want me to stay they want me to stay >> seth: kate berlant, everybody. "kate berlant: cinnamon in the wind" is now streaming on hulu, and her show "kate" runs through october 8th at the connelly theater. we'll be right back with more "late night. 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